Is anyone else depressed about MAGA?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.

What makes you think they are all uneducated? I know a woman who is a Ph. D. In Economics from Harvard who has voted for him three times and will again in 2024! She is not an anomaly.

Thinking through my Trump voting friends, they are all college educated and almost all have law degrees or MBAs.

Seriously? How do they justify voting for someone who is so obviously an inarticulate, stupid misogynist? I really don’t understand it. I do not know a single Trump supporter and can’t fathom how anyone can support him.

My daughter will not vote for Harris because of the economy - she cannot believe how prices have skyrocketed since Biden got into office and why the heck she and her husband cannot afford a home in the DC area despite making over 200K and having over 100K down payment. The interest rate, home taxes and subsequent escrow take the monthly payments out of their reach. They are willing to take a hefty commute, but during Covid, all the DCers and close in had to have their 'country' homes out in Leesburg and west, driving the prices sky high. A year ago, the idea of moving seems unfathomable to both of them. Now they both want out. In addition, they have started digging into their own news sources and are surprised at how exaggerated the claims about Trump were. The last straw was the offering of all the goodies to the "newcomers" the Biden/Harris administration brought in, leaving poor Americans drowning. The farther she gets from her college years, the more practical she's becoming.

If she's planning on having children, I hope she doesn't choose to move to a state that would put her life at risk should she experience a pregnancy complication.

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Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

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Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

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Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

Bush was Hitler, now Trump is Hitler. Republicans are all Hitlers.

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Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

Bush was Hitler, now Trump is Hitler. Republicans are all Hitlers.

Bush was never Hitler. Trump IS a fascist cult of personality. And maga are his sheep.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.

What makes you think they are all uneducated? I know a woman who is a Ph. D. In Economics from Harvard who has voted for him three times and will again in 2024! She is not an anomaly.

Thinking through my Trump voting friends, they are all college educated and almost all have law degrees or MBAs.

Seriously? How do they justify voting for someone who is so obviously an inarticulate, stupid misogynist? I really don’t understand it. I do not know a single Trump supporter and can’t fathom how anyone can support him.

My daughter will not vote for Harris because of the economy - she cannot believe how prices have skyrocketed since Biden got into office and why the heck she and her husband cannot afford a home in the DC area despite making over 200K and having over 100K down payment. The interest rate, home taxes and subsequent escrow take the monthly payments out of their reach. They are willing to take a hefty commute, but during Covid, all the DCers and close in had to have their 'country' homes out in Leesburg and west, driving the prices sky high. A year ago, the idea of moving seems unfathomable to both of them. Now they both want out. In addition, they have started digging into their own news sources and are surprised at how exaggerated the claims about Trump were. The last straw was the offering of all the goodies to the "newcomers" the Biden/Harris administration brought in, leaving poor Americans drowning. The farther she gets from her college years, the more practical she's becoming.

If she's planning on having children, I hope she doesn't choose to move to a state that would put her life at risk should she experience a pregnancy complication.

I thought that all states had exceptions for the life of the mother? Also, you used the words "choose to move to a state" - so it would be her choice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

Bush was Hitler, now Trump is Hitler. Republicans are all Hitlers.

Bush was never Hitler. Trump IS a fascist cult of personality. And maga are his sheep.

And many people described President Obama has having a cult of personality, same for Bill Clinton, same for JFK, and on and on.... Everyone who blindly follows a politician is a sheep.

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And Kamala has her cult of Brats.

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Anonymous wrote:And Kamala has her cult of Brats.

nu uh, you are

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

Bush was Hitler, now Trump is Hitler. Republicans are all Hitlers.

This exactly. Some of you may be too young to realize that this is a pattern. Bush was a moron and Trump is a racist or facist. Romney was called a racist and also derided by Obama for considering that Russia was still a threat. Every single Republican is characterized by their opponent and the water carrying media and Hollywood as somehow fatally flawed. So those of use who pay attention and are old enough to see the pattern immediately ignore all the hyperbole leveled at EVERY single Republican. We know. We are all racists and all hate women and we all carry guns and sleep with our siblings and live in trailers. Yeah yeah. We get it. Meanwhile, I’m a middle aged women who is a lawyer, has had an abortion, comes from a family or educated people none of whom own guns or trailers and I will vote for Trump. He is a better choice for the economy and for the future of our country geopolitically. For those of us who aren’t lemmings and aren’t afraid to be called names, it’s really an easy call. Kamala is a thinly veiled communist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.

I despise the MAGA movement and consider it a threat to our country’s freedom.

What saddens me, however, is the rabid partisanship and stereotyping on both sides that the OP demonstrates.

While there are undoubtedly some voters on the Republican side (and in any large group, including the Democrats), who are uneducated, racist, misogynistic, and/or homophobic, most aren’t. They range the full spectrum from the incredibly good to the incredibly bad, with most falling somewhere in the middle.

Some of them have been misguided by right-wing media. Some may agree with Democrats on many issues, but have an issue of primary concern to them that they can’t accept the Democrat’s position. Moreover, nobody likes to be unjustly vilified. Telling someone that they are uneducated, racist, misogynistic, and homophobic because they disagree with you isn’t likely to get them on your side, and is hardly convincing that you’re open-minded and tolerant.

I’m a conservative who intends to vote a straight Democratic ticket, because I recognize that defending our liberty takes priority over all other issues. You have to decide what your priorities are. Is it more important to you to demonize MAGA voters or to try to turn some of their votes? Stereotyping them and labeling them so negatively may allow you to feel smug and self-righteous, and even gather accolades from those who are like-minded, but you already have those votes. If that’s your priority, then I guess you can all feel smug and self-righteous if Republicans win and the country starts to go to Hell in Trump’s handbasket. On the other hand, if you want to prioritize winning the election, then I suggest treating Republicans like their vote would actually be welcome.

People are complex and so are the issues. You probably have some common ground with every MAGA candidate. Maybe you disagree on abortion and guns, but you can agree that grocery prices are too high. Maybe you disagree on fiscal policy, but you’re both pro-choice. Trump is not conservative. In a lot of ways, the parties have flipped. The Democrats are the ones defending the Constitution, fighting Russian invasion, have a former prosecutor in what appears to be a stable relationship as opposed to Trump who is covered with every kind of moral slime imaginable, not to mention his actual crimes. Trump is also pretty stupid for a “very stable genius” who has no filter and eight years of verbal diarrhea, not to mention his Tweets. Instead of attacking Trump voters, find out what they care about and show them how the Democrats can represent them better. In most cases, you can probably find a quote from Trump, himself, to make your point.

People talk about right and left like politics is a straight line with two opposite poles. I think that it’s actually like a circle. As you go further away from the political “center”, each side becomes more extreme until they meet on the side opposite the “center” at tyranny. Whether the tyrant labels himself a fascist or a communist, the politics doesn’t really matter. Whatever slogans he may spout, the only thing a tyrant really cares about is himself. Politics under a dictator are just the lever he used to seize power. Right now, I fear we stand at the edge of that cliff and Trump wants to push us over the edge. We must stop him. However, even if he is stopped, the divisiveness in this country with its fear-mongering and hatred leaves us vulnerable to the rise of others who would have similar ambitions, and they’ll use whichever side they feel they can exploit. Stopping Trump is vital, but it’s not enough. We must come together so we can’t be used against each other.

We need to win this election, and we need to come together with our fellow citizens. We are the UNITED States of America, and as Lincoln said, “A house divided against itself, cannot stand.” We must look for common ground ground where we can find it, compromise where we can, recognize that most issues have gray areas, have the humility to acknowledge that occasionally we’re going to be wrong, respect the right that the other side has to be wrong, themselves, but extend to them the grace and goodwill when their sincere good intentions lead them to the wrong position on an issue that we might hope they would extend to us when we are likewise in error.

A rare breath of fresh air.
Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.

Yet they would welcome you with open arms.

And yet, my homophobic MAGA family rejected me (a woman) when I married my wife. You really don't know what you're talking about.

It’s probably because you are a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a democrat is president, America is not racist or bigoted or terrible.

If a republican is elected president, America immediately transforms into an absolute hellhole.

Then why is OP complaining? She’s had Democrat presidents vast majority of past two decades.

Only democrats are allowed to be elected president. Otherwise democracy will die in darkness.

Maga is not Republican. I'd be ok with any of the candidates the GOP has floated before. But now serious politicians like Romney, Bush are too whatever for magas. The magas are a fascist cult of personality. It's depressing, I agree with OP.

Bush was Hitler, now Trump is Hitler. Republicans are all Hitlers.

Bush was never Hitler. Trump IS a fascist cult of personality. And maga are his sheep.

Democrats called Bush Hitler.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2014/09/12/dnt-hitler-bush-homework-assignment.wjla


A middle school teacher in Washington sent students home with a Venn diagram to contrast Hitler with George W. Bush.

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Democrats said Bush was Hitler. Now Democrats say Trump is Hitler. Republicans are always Hitler.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sadder every day by the uneducated, racist, misogynistic, homophobic citizens of this country. I just can’t believe how many of them are out there. It’s depressing.

Yet they would welcome you with open arms.

And yet, my homophobic MAGA family rejected me (a woman) when I married my wife. You really don't know what you're talking about.

It’s probably because you are a jerk.

Pp’s family could be jerks also. Then pp projects the attitude of her jerk family onto everyone in America. Newsflash: not everyone is a jerk like pp’s jerk family.