MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

The white kid with the Chilean grandfather no longer feels the need to check the box

Ding, ding, ding.

There are your missing Hispanics. If you go to private school in DC you know about one hundred of these kids. The grandmother was from Argentina but kid's name is Mary Jones and they live in a $4 million dollar home.
These kids are no longer getting the Hispanic bump or at least not with as much ease.

Guilty.

They had the numbers and the ECs and were as qualified as any fencing recruit or child of a PE partner.

The colleges make the rules. You roll with what is and adapt accordingly. It was a pleasant surprise that an Argentinean grandparent was good enough for a National Hispanic Recognition Award.

Top 20s for both of them.

Pretty sure it was the birthplace of the grandmother that made the difference. I mean they're awesome kids regardless, but I do think that little Hispanic box on the apps made the difference.

Like being black for the past 30 years. It's not some kid from Dunbar or Anacostia that's getting the spots at Princeton and MIT.

It's GDS and Sidwell and so on. Rich, privileged kids.

Just a convoluted way of saying that your underprivileged POC aren't really. The blacks and hispanics going to Harvard and Yale aren't coming from the barrio or the inner-city.

I’m confused. Everything is self reported. I can be black to the college board if I say so.

You'll need some copies of birth certificates and passports eventually.

Just looked at kid's US birth certificate. There is no race info on it.

People here lie like it’s a sport

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

No.

A lot of Ivies already went through issues with Jewish students and women without losing appeal to white men.

This will just make Ivies more like a place like California, majority minority.

Big deal...my family has already started blending Wasian in the next gen. We are on trend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

The white kid with the Chilean grandfather no longer feels the need to check the box

Ding, ding, ding.

There are your missing Hispanics. If you go to private school in DC you know about one hundred of these kids. The grandmother was from Argentina but kid's name is Mary Jones and they live in a $4 million dollar home.
These kids are no longer getting the Hispanic bump or at least not with as much ease.

Guilty.

They had the numbers and the ECs and were as qualified as any fencing recruit or child of a PE partner.

The colleges make the rules. You roll with what is and adapt accordingly. It was a pleasant surprise that an Argentinean grandparent was good enough for a National Hispanic Recognition Award.

Top 20s for both of them.

Pretty sure it was the birthplace of the grandmother that made the difference. I mean they're awesome kids regardless, but I do think that little Hispanic box on the apps made the difference.

Like being black for the past 30 years. It's not some kid from Dunbar or Anacostia that's getting the spots at Princeton and MIT.

It's GDS and Sidwell and so on. Rich, privileged kids.

Just a convoluted way of saying that your underprivileged POC aren't really. The blacks and hispanics going to Harvard and Yale aren't coming from the barrio or the inner-city.

I’m confused. Everything is self reported. I can be black to the college board if I say so.

You'll need some copies of birth certificates and passports eventually.

Just looked at kid's US birth certificate. There is no race info on it.

NP. Birthplace of parent is included. Birthplace of grandparent would be on the parent's birth certificate. Occasionally, a high school would ask for this type of proof before submitting the transcript for NHRP, though that was uncommon. My kid's high school didn't ask.

The National Recognition Programs for minority groups are an underrated method of disclosing race/ethnicity without having to discuss in an essay

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

Only 2% of Latino students score over 700 in math SAT, so you simply should not expect to see a lot of them at MIT.

If you're going by over 700 SAT math, MIT should be about
47% Asian
43% White
3% Black
7% Hispanic

Actual class of 2027 is not too far off from that
47% Asian
37% White
5% Black
11% Hispanic

Now do 790 SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

No.

A lot of Ivies already went through issues with Jewish students and women without losing appeal to white men.

This will just make Ivies more like a place like California, majority minority.

Big deal...my family has already started blending Wasian in the next gen. We are on trend.

Yup middle class people just need to be reminded that so called 'connection benefit' is bullshit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

No.

A lot of Ivies already went through issues with Jewish students and women without losing appeal to white men.

This will just make Ivies more like a place like California, majority minority.

Big deal...my family has already started blending Wasian in the next gen. We are on trend.

Yup middle class people just need to be reminded that so called 'connection benefit' is bullshit

You don’t think Asian people support each other over white people? How naive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

No.

A lot of Ivies already went through issues with Jewish students and women without losing appeal to white men.

This will just make Ivies more like a place like California, majority minority.

Big deal...my family has already started blending Wasian in the next gen. We are on trend.

Being Jewish is a big advantage at these schools. Look at the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

Only 2% of Latino students score over 700 in math SAT, so you simply should not expect to see a lot of them at MIT.

If you're going by over 700 SAT math, MIT should be about
47% Asian
43% White
3% Black
7% Hispanic

Actual class of 2027 is not too far off from that
47% Asian
37% White
5% Black
11% Hispanic

Now do 790 SAT.

Right.

A 780 Math score. is the 25 percentile for MIT students, with 75% of them scoring above that (most @ 800).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

Only 2% of Latino students score over 700 in math SAT, so you simply should not expect to see a lot of them at MIT.

If you're going by over 700 SAT math, MIT should be about
47% Asian
43% White
3% Black
7% Hispanic

Actual class of 2027 is not too far off from that
47% Asian
37% White
5% Black
11% Hispanic

Now do 790 SAT.

If MIT just tracked SAT math scores, it would be even more Asian.

At MIT, 25% percentile for SAT math is 790 and 75% percentile is 800.

For 800 math scores, here is the national breakdown by race:

Asian 3%
White <1%
Mixed race <1%
Native American <1%
Black <1%
Hispanic <1%
Pacific Islander <1%

For 750+ math scores, here is the national breakdown by race:

Asian 22%
White 4%
Mixed race 4%
Native American 1%
Black <1%
Hispanic 1%
Pacific Islander 1%

[Anonymous]

at what point will you guys stop complaining. as a prior supporter of AA I am soo glad it is gone. I think the number for blacks will be back to normal in 10 years and am hopeful that the complainers will stop. How annoying can you be? And you still arent satisfied. Now an essay suggested by Roberts is the racist tool. Odd that a bunch of decentralized racists decided to all get jobs in adminssions offices.

Have a feeling this is the same folks shooting up comet pizza, banning books and abortion, and waiting for jfk jr's resurrection

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"M.I.T. is the first highly selective university to release statistics on the composition of its freshman class since the high court’s ruling."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/mit-black-latino-enrollment-affirmative-action.html

Going from 15% to 5% for blacks is a large drop year-to-year, but 5 % is the average for elite colleges, so not too surprised.

[Anonymous]

Yes, merit-based, race-blind, equal opportunity, fair competition for everyone is the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that MIT and similar schools will launch "outreach programs" that target heavily black and latino areas. They will claim that it's about "income" to avoid lawsuits.

Why do you think that? What do you think MITs racism stems from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

Only 2% of Latino students score over 700 in math SAT, so you simply should not expect to see a lot of them at MIT.

If you're going by over 700 SAT math, MIT should be about
47% Asian
43% White
3% Black
7% Hispanic

Actual class of 2027 is not too far off from that
47% Asian
37% White
5% Black
11% Hispanic

Now do 790 SAT.

If MIT just tracked SAT math scores, it would be even more Asian.

At MIT, 25% percentile for SAT math is 790 and 75% percentile is 800.

For 800 math scores, here is the national breakdown by race:

Asian 3%
White <1%
Mixed race <1%
Native American <1%
Black <1%
Hispanic <1%
Pacific Islander <1%

For 750+ math scores, here is the national breakdown by race:

Asian 22%
White 4%
Mixed race 4%
Native American 1%
Black <1%
Hispanic 1%
Pacific Islander 1%

no one wants to learn or create or live in a bubble of people selected based on SAT math scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

No.

A lot of Ivies already went through issues with Jewish students and women without losing appeal to white men.

This will just make Ivies more like a place like California, majority minority.

Big deal...my family has already started blending Wasian in the next gen. We are on trend.

Yup middle class people just need to be reminded that so called 'connection benefit' is bullshit

You don’t think Asian people support each other over white people? How naive

It's not just race thing. Rich Asians won't get connected to poor Asians just like upper class Whites won't mingle with rednecks.