Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You all sound unhinged over a few hundred dollars, or is this one person who can’t stop posting?


Few hundred dollars... PER scam victim.

It's felony level fraud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.


Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.


They aren’t olympians because of Stone Ridge. They swam NCAP and happened to be students at Stone Ridge
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You all sound unhinged over a few hundred dollars, or is this one person who can’t stop posting?


There’s at least 2 of us posting. If you don’t understand why its a problem, I can’t help you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You all sound unhinged over a few hundred dollars, or is this one person who can’t stop posting?


Sorry, more than you think.

Isn’t the main issue here the blatant dishonesty and lack of integrity of the Stone Ridge swim coach, the STA/NCS swim coach and the Holton Arms swim coach and head of their upper school?

Bizarre that you can overlook this behavior. Don’t you expect more from the people teaching your kids?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all sound unhinged over a few hundred dollars, or is this one person who can’t stop posting?


Sorry, more than you think.

Isn’t the main issue here the blatant dishonesty and lack of integrity of the Stone Ridge swim coach, the STA/NCS swim coach and the Holton Arms swim coach and head of their upper school?

Bizarre that you can overlook this behavior. Don’t you expect more from the people teaching your kids?


+1
Anonymous
The issue is likely way broader and they have certified many lifeguards out in the community who may not be adequate. The Montgomery County run classes are pretty grueling and people fail, especially if not a strong swimmer. Classes/certifications done at the Stone Ridge should be looked at.
Anonymous
There are so many errors in these threads its sort of mind-boggling

The class was done at Kenwood by a Stoneridge coach- but not the middle school or high school swim coach. MB is an athletics teacher, not the swimmer coach just FYI. She coaches at Kenwood.

The re-certification was completed- and *accepted*- by the Red Cross and done by a Holton administrator

as for Bettencourt, don't know what his involvement was really

all the kids who wanted to get rectified were given the option

the kids who wanted to be paid back can talk to Kenwood

Move on, people.
Anonymous
*re-certified*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are so many errors in these threads its sort of mind-boggling

The class was done at Kenwood by a Stoneridge coach- but not the middle school or high school swim coach. MB is an athletics teacher, not the swimmer coach just FYI. She coaches at Kenwood.

The re-certification was completed- and *accepted*- by the Red Cross and done by a Holton administrator

as for Bettencourt, don't know what his involvement was really

all the kids who wanted to get rectified were given the option

the kids who wanted to be paid back can talk to Kenwood

Move on, people.


Who was the other person who was permanently banned by the Red Cross?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.


Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.


They aren’t olympians because of Stone Ridge. They swam NCAP and happened to be students at Stone Ridge


+1 THIS. Both of upper school and middle school head swim coaches are duds there. They had nothing to do with the training of these Olympians. The girls were trained exclusively by NCAP, and never attended any swim practices at school. They went to SR for the Catholic education, not the swim program, and especially not for these swim coach duds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The issue is likely way broader and they have certified many lifeguards out in the community who may not be adequate. The Montgomery County run classes are pretty grueling and people fail, especially if not a strong swimmer. Classes/certifications done at the Stone Ridge should be looked at.


Agree! How many untrained lifeguards have these people unleashed in the community?

This is about a lot more than just the $400 payment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is likely way broader and they have certified many lifeguards out in the community who may not be adequate. The Montgomery County run classes are pretty grueling and people fail, especially if not a strong swimmer. Classes/certifications done at the Stone Ridge should be looked at.


Agree! How many untrained lifeguards have these people unleashed in the community?

This is about a lot more than just the $400 payment.


Exactly. They have put people's lives at risk. It's scary.
Anonymous
Why are you letting the kids and their parents off the hook. My DS just did a lifeguard course and it was a fairly intense 24 hours of in person, fairly intense training and 8 hours of virtual. It was a long week for him. All of his friends have had the same experience, and when you sign up, all of the courses show about 30 hours of class time.

I'm sure all of these kids knew that four hours of class with no test was a fraud. Unbelievable that they took their scam certification cards and got lifeguarding jobs. They knew that they weren't trained or qualified. And their parents did too. So scummy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are you letting the kids and their parents off the hook. My DS just did a lifeguard course and it was a fairly intense 24 hours of in person, fairly intense training and 8 hours of virtual. It was a long week for him. All of his friends have had the same experience, and when you sign up, all of the courses show about 30 hours of class time.

I'm sure all of these kids knew that four hours of class with no test was a fraud. Unbelievable that they took their scam certification cards and got lifeguarding jobs. They knew that they weren't trained or qualified. And their parents did too. So scummy


Oh my goodness. You and the coaches who defrauded kids of $400 and lost wages are just too much. The coaches complain about how unfair the consequences are of their actions. Never a word of apology or attempts to right the wrong.

Seriously, you cannot deflect blame in this situation. The coaches were wrong.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are you letting the kids and their parents off the hook. My DS just did a lifeguard course and it was a fairly intense 24 hours of in person, fairly intense training and 8 hours of virtual. It was a long week for him. All of his friends have had the same experience, and when you sign up, all of the courses show about 30 hours of class time.

I'm sure all of these kids knew that four hours of class with no test was a fraud. Unbelievable that they took their scam certification cards and got lifeguarding jobs. They knew that they weren't trained or qualified. And their parents did too. So scummy


+1 agree completely.

Would not have been possible without the crooked coaches however.
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