Plane etiquette

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

[Anonymous]

The daytime, short flight recliners are like the people who stand for an entire concert in the upper deck, regardless of the song playing. Yes, you're permitted to. And there are times when it's appropriate to stand. But if you stand the entire time, even during ballads or other lulls in the show, you're just bring inconsiderate to those behind you. Yes, you can stand - you won't get kicked out for it. And yes, you could always tell those people to buy better seats if they don't want people standing for the entire show. But that doesn't make you any less inconsiderate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

Petty and vindictive too.

I think that poster has a point: why be extra considerate to someone rude? And the knee part would not be avoidable to a tall person. That's why I didn't recline last time with a woman who was 6 feet tall behind me: Where are her knees supposed to go? I find that rude travelers really can make an experience unpleasant, and vice versa. The people complaining about a crying baby are typically rude to flight attendants or loud for instance. Some people have no sense of awareness about themselves and others and it really shows on planes.

Tall person can go in economy + or business class. No one owes you anything just because you're tall.

Buy a coach ticket and get coach accomodations. That includes being uncomfortable when someone uses the reclining feature they paid for. Suck it up or buy more room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The daytime, short flight recliners are like the people who stand for an entire concert in the upper deck, regardless of the song playing. Yes, you're permitted to. And there are times when it's appropriate to stand. But if you stand the entire time, even during ballads or other lulls in the show, you're just bring inconsiderate to those behind you. Yes, you can stand - you won't get kicked out for it. And yes, you could always tell those people to buy better seats if they don't want people standing for the entire show. But that doesn't make you any less inconsiderate.

Terrible analogy..standing on the seat isn't a feature designed for use of a damn chair. A chair is for sitting. The reclining feature of an airline seat is to recline while seated. If someone buys a ticket they are free to use the feature. All I hear is whining about not being treated like a king while paying economy fare. You get what you pay for, so stop complaining about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The daytime, short flight recliners are like the people who stand for an entire concert in the upper deck, regardless of the song playing. Yes, you're permitted to. And there are times when it's appropriate to stand. But if you stand the entire time, even during ballads or other lulls in the show, you're just bring inconsiderate to those behind you. Yes, you can stand - you won't get kicked out for it. And yes, you could always tell those people to buy better seats if they don't want people standing for the entire show. But that doesn't make you any less inconsiderate.

Terrible analogy..standing on the seat isn't a feature designed for use of a damn chair. A chair is for sitting. The reclining feature of an airline seat is to recline while seated. If someone buys a ticket they are free to use the feature. All I hear is whining about not being treated like a king while paying economy fare. You get what you pay for, so stop complaining about it.

DP but nowhere did that person say “standing on a chair”.

Basically I think there are two groups— people who are focused on what they are entitled to do and don’t want to hear about anything else (even people who say “you are entitled to do that but..”) and people who try to balance in some way what they are entitled to do with what is considerate of other people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

Petty and vindictive too.

I think that poster has a point: why be extra considerate to someone rude? And the knee part would not be avoidable to a tall person. That's why I didn't recline last time with a woman who was 6 feet tall behind me: Where are her knees supposed to go? I find that rude travelers really can make an experience unpleasant, and vice versa. The people complaining about a crying baby are typically rude to flight attendants or loud for instance. Some people have no sense of awareness about themselves and others and it really shows on planes.

Tall person can go in economy + or business class. No one owes you anything just because you're tall.

Buy a coach ticket and get coach accomodations. That includes being uncomfortable when someone uses the reclining feature they paid for. Suck it up or buy more room.

Nope, no one owes tall people anything and also if you get a tall enough man behind you, you won't be able to recline the seat because their knees will physically block you from doing so. I will admit to one time observing this happen with a tall seat mate and it was fun to watch. Suck it recliners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Stay mad!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

[Anonymous]

I do it without concern in economy plus given how much leg room there is and I don't mind the person in front of me doing it either. I always do it on overnight flights to sleep. I've occasionally done it during the day on shorter flights, but this is only because I can end up with some fairly excruciating muscle pains in my mid back from sitting in certain positions and the stupid headrests on economy seats push my head forward and make it a million times worse. It helps to just move the seat a tiny bit back and relieve a bit of pressure. If I do this, I try to do it the smallest amount possible to get some pain relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

Do you really care about anyone else in society? Be honest now.

[Anonymous]

Reclining is rude. If you do it, I'll bump into it every other minute, and keep pretending like it's an accident.

This "feature" needs to be done with, like those armrest ashtrays.

[Anonymous]

People who recline on planes are the same people who walk like this on a sidewalk: https://new.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1dityvo/fellow_nova_runners_please_do_not_run_like_this/

FACTS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

That really says it all.

I mean, do you really care about the person in front of you? Do you care about anyone on the plane whom you don't know? Be honest, now.

This is so weird.

[Anonymous]

Anti reclining idiots are like the morons on the road who get angry at people who efficiently use the other lane on a road for an upcoming zipper merge because they think they're cutting in line.

If you hate reclining, go book in business class. Otherwise, shut your whiny pie holes. You pay for coach, you get coach. Boo hoo.

[Anonymous]

Well said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/opinions/reclining-seat-rage-airplane-passengers-poole/index.html