Plane etiquette

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have very long legs and when the person in front reclines, the seat bangs my knees and pushes on them. Its very painful.

I have long legs and I wedge them up against the seat in front of me so that the person in front of me thinks that their seat is broken and won't recline. Eventually they give up.

Then you should pay for an exit row seat instead of being a jerk.

Why should I have to pay more money for my ticket than a short person?

Because you said that you take away another person’s equally paid use of their seat, which includes reclining. Not saying you should pay more money because you’re tall, saying you should pay more money for the benefit you’re getting by forcing another person not to recline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

Petty and vindictive too.

[Anonymous]

I reclined my seat gently but fully on a return AirFrance flight from Paris. I was exhausted and needed to get some sleep. Also, my seat reclines - I should be able to use that feature. The man behind me (FULLY reclined in his own seat) proceeded to kick the back of my chair and try to shove it back up for the next hour. I asked him politely to stop and he told me that it was annoying to have my seat reclined into his space. Again, he was fully reclined in his own seat!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I reclined my seat gently but fully on a return AirFrance flight from Paris. I was exhausted and needed to get some sleep. Also, my seat reclines - I should be able to use that feature. The man behind me (FULLY reclined in his own seat) proceeded to kick the back of my chair and try to shove it back up for the next hour. I asked him politely to stop and he told me that it was annoying to have my seat reclined into his space. Again, he was fully reclined in his own seat!

Reply got cut off....

I finally asked a flight attendant if there was anything we could do, and I was told "suck it up and stop being a baby" about his behavior. Needless to say, I hate flying coach these days. I will always recline my seat if it's an option and I need/want to relax, and I fully respect the decision of the person in front of me to do the same, even if it does seriously encroach on my tiny amount of space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

This is a really good, reasonable answer.
We should all try very hard not to infringe on others. But as soon as one person breaks the code it's game on. I'm not going to kick your seat on purpose but I'm not going to be very careful either, as I would with a considerate person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

How's that? For not being concerned about their comfort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Fly business class then and quit complaining.

Who is complaining? I'm just stating my preferences and course of action.

Stop it. We know you're being passive aggressive. You think you're not complaining, but then you describe trying to retaliate by disturbing the seat in front when you get up or purposefully trying to jostle behind them.

You're too cheap to buy more room and then have the gall to complain about it.

I explicitly said that I don't retaliate. I helpfully bolded it for you. I am just unconcerned about their comfort. You can believe me or not - I can't do anything about that - but it's true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I always recline immediately. My seat, my rules.

Great! Than you won't mind if I recline as far back as I can then? My seat, my rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

Petty and vindictive too.

I think that poster has a point: why be extra considerate to someone rude? And the knee part would not be avoidable to a tall person. That's why I didn't recline last time with a woman who was 6 feet tall behind me: Where are her knees supposed to go? I find that rude travelers really can make an experience unpleasant, and vice versa. The people complaining about a crying baby are typically rude to flight attendants or loud for instance. Some people have no sense of awareness about themselves and others and it really shows on planes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The seat reclines. I recline if I want to. With awareness. No quick movement. But no I'm not asking your permission and no I'm not going to stop doing it.

This, nothing wrong with reclining.

+2

[Anonymous]

I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclining is permitted. No one is disputing that.

That said, if you recline, you are prioritizing your comfort over that of the person behind you. That's just a fact. It's your right to do so, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it is universally accepted. Lots of things are legal, and permitted, but we choose not to do them to be considerate to others.

I and many others think that on daytime flights, particularly short ones, it is inconsiderate and bad manners and inconsiderate to recline. Again, no one is saying that it isn't your right to do so.

If someone reclines in front of me, the only thing I do is free myself of any obligation to concern myself with their comfort. I don't retaliate, but I also don't think about them. If I need to grab the seatback to get up, that's fine. If I jostle them getting something out of the seat pocket, no worries. If my knees repeatedly hit their reclined seat, I don't care.

Sounds like you are the inconsiderate one.

Petty and vindictive too.

I think that poster has a point: why be extra considerate to someone rude? And the knee part would not be avoidable to a tall person. That's why I didn't recline last time with a woman who was 6 feet tall behind me: Where are her knees supposed to go? I find that rude travelers really can make an experience unpleasant, and vice versa. The people complaining about a crying baby are typically rude to flight attendants or loud for instance. Some people have no sense of awareness about themselves and others and it really shows on planes.

I have a 6'3 husband. He pushes his feet underneath's the seat in front of him (extending his legs) instead of keeping them bent at the knees.

[Anonymous]

If you want to recline, choose the window or middle seat. There's less likely to be a tall, nasty person in those seats. The tall people typically choose the aisle seats.

If my seat reclines, you bet I'm reclining. The person behind me can recline too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really wish the seats were just permanently reclined. It's painful how upright the seats are. They only get marginally comfortable after you recline. I don't care at all about the person behind me. Sit in the front row if you don't want someone reclining in front of you.

Ugh no, reclining makes my back hurt so much! I keep my seat upright. Don’t care if the person in front of me reclines; it’s annoying but honestly flying economy is annoying even if they don’t recline. My last business trip I got bumped to premium economy and it was so much nicer. Pity it’s out of my price range got regular travel.