STEM flagships

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And I’ll add that many UVA people start off with a chip on their shoulder about their child attending a state school. They are the same cringey people that have to say it’s a public ivy. They simply can’t accept that another state school is in the same realm of choices as UVA. And God forbid it’s the better choice for STEM.

But there are a bunch of us whose kids do not attend any instate school, so we are not playing favorites, we are looking at data from the high schools and seeing that UVA and WM kids overlap a lot with stats and rigor, yet VT admits are a significant step down.

That is not the case for GT vs UGA: GT gets the higher quality students. No bias against public tech schools, some get the best.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know how UVA is Virginia's flagship university where Virginia's top students attend, and VT is the de facto STEM flagship with strong STEM programs where Virginia's top STEM talent attends? Well, can you help me identify some other states' comparable STEM flagship? For instance...

U Michigan/Michigan State U
UT Austin/Texas A&M
UNC Chapel Hill/NC State
U Georgia/Georgia Tech
Ohio State/?
Penn State/?
Rutgers/?
Others?

False premise. As someone else indicated, top Virginia STEM talent does not go to Virginia Tech. Some of it does, but certainly not most. A higher number of TJ grads go to UVA and W&M than to VT, and TJ is the top STEM high school in the state.

Please post your citations.
DP

NP. This is TJ from last year (beginning on page 18). VT may get more in 2024 since they got rid of the silly ED.
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue

WM - 24
VT - 23
And no doubt more this year, as you said. Not really making the PP’s claim that more TJ grads go to WM than VT.

Last 5 years looks like this for TJ graduates: 207 to UVA, 132 to W&M, 82 to VT. Using a single year is subject to greater variability.

But also consider it this way -- VT has 1.8X as many undergraduates as UVA and 4.6X as many as W&M. Proportionally more should be going to VT, but that hasn't happened.

Please stop posting numbers without citations to back them up. You might as well be making them up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why there is this weird anti VT thing on this site. I don’t get this. It’s a totally fine school. What gives with this on DCUM?

It's just certain posters whose kids, no doubt, were rejected from VT. The bitterness is so obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And I’ll add that many UVA people start off with a chip on their shoulder about their child attending a state school. They are the same cringey people that have to say it’s a public ivy. They simply can’t accept that another state school is in the same realm of choices as UVA. And God forbid it’s the better choice for STEM.

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But I think VT is an excellent choice for far more than just STEM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know how UVA is Virginia's flagship university where Virginia's top students attend, and VT is the de facto STEM flagship with strong STEM programs where Virginia's top STEM talent attends? Well, can you help me identify some other states' comparable STEM flagship? For instance...

U Michigan/Michigan State U
UT Austin/Texas A&M
UNC Chapel Hill/NC State
U Georgia/Georgia Tech
Ohio State/?
Penn State/?
Rutgers/?
Others?

False premise. As someone else indicated, top Virginia STEM talent does not go to Virginia Tech. Some of it does, but certainly not most. A higher number of TJ grads go to UVA and W&M than to VT, and TJ is the top STEM high school in the state.

Please post your citations.
DP

NP. This is TJ from last year (beginning on page 18). VT may get more in 2024 since they got rid of the silly ED.
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue

WM - 24
VT - 23
And no doubt more this year, as you said. Not really making the PP’s claim that more TJ grads go to WM than VT.

Last 5 years looks like this for TJ graduates: 207 to UVA, 132 to W&M, 82 to VT. Using a single year is subject to greater variability.

But also consider it this way -- VT has 1.8X as many undergraduates as UVA and 4.6X as many as W&M. Proportionally more should be going to VT, but that hasn't happened.

Please stop posting numbers without citations to back them up. You might as well be making them up.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined
https://www.tjtoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/SeniorIssue.pdf
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2020
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2019_for_web

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

NP- When you resort to the "your kid was rejected" trope you really show yourself as a boorish rube. You are the one that seems insecure... Tech boosters are a silly lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

NP- When you resort to the "your kid was rejected" trope you really show yourself as a boorish rube. You are the one that seems insecure... Tech boosters are a silly lot.

DP. The “silly lot” are those that claim their kids go to “ivy/T10” schools with the “peer set they want for their kids” - but somehow find themselves drawn to a thread about state schools. The sniffy, above it all act is beyond transparent. We know why you continue to post here, and the insecurity is palpable and sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

NP- When you resort to the "your kid was rejected" trope you really show yourself as a boorish rube. You are the one that seems insecure... Tech boosters are a silly lot.

DP. The “silly lot” are those that claim their kids go to “ivy/T10” schools with the “peer set they want for their kids” - but somehow find themselves drawn to a thread about state schools. The sniffy, above it all act is beyond transparent. We know why you continue to post here, and the insecurity is palpable and sad.

You really find it sad? Guess I've never really given a crap about other posters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

NP- When you resort to the "your kid was rejected" trope you really show yourself as a boorish rube. You are the one that seems insecure... Tech boosters are a silly lot.

DP. The “silly lot” are those that claim their kids go to “ivy/T10” schools with the “peer set they want for their kids” - but somehow find themselves drawn to a thread about state schools. The sniffy, above it all act is beyond transparent. We know why you continue to post here, and the insecurity is palpable and sad.

You really find it sad? Guess I've never really given a crap about other posters.

Clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

Believe what you want. Mine did not apply to VT and neither do the rest of the top Stem kids at magnets and privates. It is not considered a good school compared to Uva . It just is not. Multiple people have said the same on here. You just do not want to believe how the intellectual set sees VT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

NP- When you resort to the "your kid was rejected" trope you really show yourself as a boorish rube. You are the one that seems insecure... Tech boosters are a silly lot.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s because many people feel threatened by VT’s climb in popularity and selectivity. They have a hard time accepting that some kids prefer it to UVA and many STEM kids see it as the better instate choice. I say this as a UVA grad myself and I see VT as the school I’d want my engineering child to attend.

Nope. Not threatened. Mine are at ivy/T10. VT really does yield only the barely above average from the top privates in our area. I am judging it by the pre-TO and current SAT and gpa and lower math path kids they accept compared to UVA, for stem and non-stem. They simply do not have the peer set we wanted for our kids, even as a backup, not even close. Then there are the above avg kids who end up there from our school (WL at Uva and WM) and say it is EASY. In Engineering. That fact makes it not a good fit for many students who come from intense stem high schools. Glad to see the TJ parents on here agree. TJ is not in our area.

DP. Nope, this person isn't threatened at ALL ^^. You have posted this nonsense before and it's so obvious what your real intent is. I'm glad that even after being rejected from VT, your kids were able to find their "peer set."

Don't do that. That's the kind of response that has set DCUM against other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know how UVA is Virginia's flagship university where Virginia's top students attend, and VT is the de facto STEM flagship with strong STEM programs where Virginia's top STEM talent attends? Well, can you help me identify some other states' comparable STEM flagship? For instance...

U Michigan/Michigan State U
UT Austin/Texas A&M
UNC Chapel Hill/NC State
U Georgia/Georgia Tech
Ohio State/?
Penn State/?
Rutgers/?
Others?

False premise. As someone else indicated, top Virginia STEM talent does not go to Virginia Tech. Some of it does, but certainly not most. A higher number of TJ grads go to UVA and W&M than to VT, and TJ is the top STEM high school in the state.

Please post your citations.
DP

NP. This is TJ from last year (beginning on page 18). VT may get more in 2024 since they got rid of the silly ED.
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue

WM - 24
VT - 23
And no doubt more this year, as you said. Not really making the PP’s claim that more TJ grads go to WM than VT.

Last 5 years looks like this for TJ graduates: 207 to UVA, 132 to W&M, 82 to VT. Using a single year is subject to greater variability.

But also consider it this way -- VT has 1.8X as many undergraduates as UVA and 4.6X as many as W&M. Proportionally more should be going to VT, but that hasn't happened.

Please stop posting numbers without citations to back them up. You might as well be making them up.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined
https://www.tjtoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/SeniorIssue.pdf
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2020
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2019_for_web

Keep in mind VT has a bias against TJ applicants and doesn't accept them as much as one would expect.