STEM flagships
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Anonymous
Engineering yes, the others I’m not sure about. I’ve been interviewing kids for CS positions for years, and the UVA grads are almost always better than the VT grads we interview, and often it’s not even close. The UVA grads are much more impressive academically and have better foundational skills. They just seem smarter overall; not surprising given the disparity in entering gpa/scores. Everyone craps on the Ivy League for STEM as well, but we’ve gotten some amazing candidates from Dartmouth and Brown. At some level the capabilities of the kids going into the programs matter more than exactly what series of classes they take. Most CS programs at good schools are at the very least adequate. |
Anonymous
Same with top privates and the stem magnet publics in VA: the smartest Stem(all stem) who stay in state go to UVA or WM. The smartest ones who leave the state go T10 or ivy. |
Anonymous
+1000! And note Brown and Dartmouth are not even the stronger ivies. Princeton, Penn, Cornell, Columbia are the top ones for stem, but they all have smarter students across Stem, including engineering, than the corresponding kids at VT. They have top faculty too: look at R1 research publication scores and the top stem faculty are not at VT. Uva nudges out VT in stem, and T10/ivy win stem overall. Among T10/ivy, MIT is a notch above that elite group. The quality of the average student determines the pace of the math and science classes, and the depth. VT is not close. Just like TexasA&M is not close to UT (relative is a stem prof who moved A&M to UT and now his whole lab is at an ivy—he got huge $$ to move and took it, and is amazed by how much more in depth he can teach undergrads) |
Anonymous
+100 |
Anonymous
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STEM is such a broad term. Do you honestly expect the top school in math theory to be the top school in marine biology, cybersecurity, astronomy, paleontology, material sciences, optics, civil engineering, quantum mechanics, gene editing, etc.?
I suspect that all of the schools named so far (and quite a few that haven’t yet been mentioned) could provide an excellent STEM education with more opportunities than an ambitious, self-directed student could probably take advantage of during a four year course of study. Whether any particular school has the best STEM program for a particular student probably depends on the specific student and what they’re looking for in a specific program (and from college in general). |
Anonymous
A rare well reasoned answer on DCUM. You may be slumming. . . |
Anonymous
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No one mentioned UMD?
UMBC would be next. |
Anonymous
| Add Wisconsin to the list. |
Anonymous
What are some of the OOS publics that are cheaper than UVA/VT for VA residents? I would love to know, very curious. |
Anonymous
Almost right but most kids who can afford to go T30 over UVA |
Anonymous
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Clemson v. U of SC
NC State v. UNC |
Anonymous
Thanks for actually answering the question. There are so many people on this board who are insecure, elitist, prestige slaves. |
Anonymous
But the original premise isn't correct. There are not designated STEM Flagships. Many states do not have designated flagships period. It is just assumed that the one with University of <insert state> or the oldest is the flagship. There is a concept of the land grant university in the state, but the flagship may also be a land grant. To say there is a STEM flagship suggests that the other colleges aren't doing STEM or at least not to the same level. That isn't a correct general statement. |
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UIUC
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Anonymous
I think some state flagships are known for their strong STEM majors, like Purdue and UMD, while others aren't, like UVA. |