Republicans drafting bills to remove Biden from the ballot in GA, AZ, PA

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

It requires an actual crime or at least facts of a crime to do this. Lawyers can't just conjure things up and make it stick, contrary to the beliefs of the right that somehow there weren't facts adjudicated or due process in the CO matter.

There's always that pesky laptop.

Barr, Durham and Trump had that "laptop" for two years before the 2020 election and couldn't find or make anything on it to tie Joe Biden to any crimes. What males you think, 4 years later, there is data on it that would be different than what they had then?

Well find out in a few months.

Why do you need a few months? What was there? Some Biden nudes and his father making three car payments. Wow...

Because that's how long court cass take.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

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What are you guys waiting for then? Go file your case and see what happens.

Read the title of this thread.

Did you read it?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

+1

What are you guys waiting for then? Go file your case and see what happens.

Read the title of this thread.

Those aren’t legit legal cases. They are just dipshit state legislators proposing idiotic legislation that even Republican leaders won’t act on.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

+1

What are you guys waiting for then? Go file your case and see what happens.

Read the title of this thread.

Those aren’t legit legal cases. They are just dipshit state legislators proposing idiotic legislation that even Republican leaders won’t act on.

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing Republicans act on. What makes you think it’s beyond them?

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

Dear Democrat, did you not watch what happened on Jan 6? Fine if you want to think Trump didn’t cause it (he did). But it’s an absolute fact that he did NOTHING to stop it. No tweet, no announcement, no nothing. I dont know what else you need to hear that will convince you that without Trump and his repetition of “Election stolen”, “come to DC, it will be wild” or “Proud Boys, stand back and stand by” the Riot/protest/insurrection/police slipping in blood/law makers running for their lives, etc. would not have happened.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

It requires an actual crime or at least facts of a crime to do this. Lawyers can't just conjure things up and make it stick, contrary to the beliefs of the right that somehow there weren't facts adjudicated or due process in the CO matter.

There's always that pesky laptop.

Or the Russia hoax.

Or the bribery.

Or the border.


Lots of options for supreme courts in various red states.

None of those things are an insurrection against the United States...you know, the thing in the Constitution that disqualifies someone from office.

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

It requires an actual crime or at least facts of a crime to do this. Lawyers can't just conjure things up and make it stick, contrary to the beliefs of the right that somehow there weren't facts adjudicated or due process in the CO matter.

There's always that pesky laptop.

Barr, Durham and Trump had that "laptop" for two years before the 2020 election and couldn't find or make anything on it to tie Joe Biden to any crimes. What males you think, 4 years later, there is data on it that would be different than what they had then?

Well find out in a few months.

No, you won’t. You already know, and to you and your fellow cult members, that there’s nothing there. You know Biden is a good man, you Trump is a traitor. You just don’t care. You don’t care if the US as we have known it is destroyed by Republicans acting as fascists, you think that you will be part of the in group.

Give your family a wondrous gift this Christmas. Sit in self reflection. Take a few weeks off from all your right wing propaganda sources. Take a walk outside. Volunteer. And for goodness sake, read some books about fascism and authoritarianism.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Exactly. There is no self-reflection for cultists.

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

They were ALL coerced? How would you know that? Or did you just decide that credibility wasn’t going to be part of your post?

Then law enforcement asks, who coerced them, and the answer by their own testimony was Donald Trump...hence the "engaged in an insurrection" determination from the Colorado court system.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I think lawfare is the only sensible course of action. It doesn't make sense to have the left engage in this without any similar response from the right.

+1

What are you guys waiting for then? Go file your case and see what happens.

Read the title of this thread.

Those aren’t legit legal cases. They are just dipshit state legislators proposing idiotic legislation that even Republican leaders won’t act on.

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing Republicans act on. What makes you think it’s beyond them?

They know they will fail and lose. Imaginary grievances don’t translate to legitimate legislation or legal cases.

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

Coup? Lol. Worst coup EVER. SCA events are often more dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

Coup? Lol. Worst coup EVER. SCA events are often more dangerous.

Just because it was stupid and dysfunctional doesn’t mean it wasn’t a coup/insurrection attempt. They occupied the Capitol to try to stop the formal certification by Congress that Trump lost. Trump, as usual, greatly overestimated his support and believed that the military and law enforcement would help his coup attempt.

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

Coup? Lol. Worst coup EVER. SCA events are often more dangerous.

+1

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

Coup? Lol. Worst coup EVER. SCA events are often more dangerous.

1) question integrity of the election
2) induce slates of "fake" or alternative electors from disputed states
3) induce masses to attack the capitol and disrupt the certification
4) have the GOP in the House and Senate throw certification of disputed states back to those states
5) Have disputed GOP state houses vote for the GOP fake electors
6) have the house and senate affirm the certification of the election based on the fake electors
7) Trump takes office legally but on false pretense.

This as all conceivable to happen except:
1) Pence grew a spine
2) a few MPD and Capitol Police were able to thwart the worst of the violence at the Capitol
3) Michigan certified for Biden (see thread about Michigan electors)

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Anonymous wrote: “Colorado radicals just changed the game and we are not going to sit quietly while they destroy our Republic. To be clear, our objective is to showcase the absurdity of Colorado’s decision and allow ALL candidates to be on the ballot in all states.”

Fair.

Not really. The grounds are baseless. The fact is, Trump "was engaged in an insurrection" - other than being a born American and over 35, those are the three requirements to be president. The GOP has zero grounds for this performative BS and all it does is further degrade our republic. So I guess in that sense it is on brand.

The GOP and Trump legal filings suggest Biden is immune presidentially for his actions and that Kamala Harris has the right to change the course of electoral college vote counting, so I suppose they should have at it next year.

I'm not a Trump fan but that is absolutely not a fact. It's an opinion. If he was convicted then you'd have a point. But he wasn't so you don't.

It is an opinion of a court after 5 days of testimony that wasn't disputed by either of the litigants. There is no constitutional requirement for a conviction.

An opinion of a kangaroo court. This will be overturned by the SC. In the meantime, Republicans who are far nastier are going to have Biden removed in a dozen states and they'll time it so that the appeals will happen after the election. This is a dumb move by the Democrats.

The plaintiffs were republicans you moron.

The court is all Dems you moron.

There would't be a case if GOP plaintiffs hadn't filed for it.

The judges have been consistent in their application of the law. Or are you projecting what "republican" judges would have done differently? Because Judge Luttig, one of the most conservaitve jurists in the country, disagrees with you.

I'm a Democrat. But until Trump (who I can't stand) is actually convicted of insurrection, removing him from the ballot based on a state court ruling is ridiculous and sets terrible precedent. This will come back to bite Dems in the end.

This is how every constitutional interpretation happens. A lower court conducts a trial and makes a ruling, it gets appealed, and if it is a new constitutional question it ends up at the US Supreme Court. Nothing starts in there. It has to start in a lower court somewhere.

As it will happen in numerous states for Biden taking foreign bribes. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. Republicans will gum things up for Biden for the next 11 months and Dems have them the idea.

That’s ridiculous. There is no comparison. Everyone knows Trump is guilty of insurrection and much more. Everyone knows there is no evidence and no case against Biden. For politics, Republican pretend otherwise, but they know they are lying.

You mean everyone at the Takoma Park Co-op. Everyone else who doesn't love in the land of make believe is still unsure exactly what happened on Jan 6th. And I'm a Democrat.

If you are questioning what happened on 1/6/21, then maybe go and read the various filing documents, sentencing documents and plea deals that have taken place over the last 2 years. Primary, documentary evidence is hard to dispute, no?

Oh you mean a bunch of working class people with few resources to begin with who’ve been in prison for the last few years awaiting trial are taking plea deals because they have no money to pay for a lawyer and their PD is telling them to plea jus5 to get it over with and get out of jail eventually?

If I’ve been in the DC jail since January of ‘21, I’ll confess to killing Abraham Lincoln AND the Lindbergh Baby or whatever else you want me to say I did, if it means I can get out of jail in a few more months. All these plea deals mean nothing. They were all coerced from people with no means of a defense and who’ve been detained for illegally long periods without trial.

This "working class people" had sophisticated equipment and spent a lot of time on Parler and Signal coordinating a coup. You think they shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes, yet people like you shouted "lock her up" at conjured crimes from the lady.



Cry me a river.

Coup? Lol. Worst coup EVER. SCA events are often more dangerous.

“We’re too stupid and incompetent to pull off a coup” is not a great argument.