Notre Dame or Georgetown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those two pies make Georgetown look way more regional. NY/NJ/va and California. Whereas ND has a lot more beefier slices.

+1 Georgetown is much more regional. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that is a truly national student body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want a Catholic school, Notre Dame is much more Catholic than Georgetown.

Georgetown is basically "catholic"

Notre Dame is 81% Catholic; Georgetown is half that -- 41% Catholic. However, both are as Catholic or not as you personally want them to be. At ND, you don't need to be Catholic or attend mass. At GU, you can engage in Catholicism to your heart's content through retreats, dialog, services, etc. You can't be "too Catholic" for GU -- there's as much Catholic experience as you desire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those two pies make Georgetown look way more regional. NY/NJ/va and California. Whereas ND has a lot more beefier slices.

+1 Georgetown is much more regional. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that is a truly national student body.

GU has students from all 50 states (as does ND) and more international students. ND students are mostly white, Catholic, and upper-middle class. GU is more diverse in that respect.

[Anonymous]

894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has a better (healthier) social life. Georgetown dating culture is also much better than ND. Everyone seems to be looking for a future spouse at ND from sophomore year on and students seem to feel the pressure of that.

Ridiculously untrue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those two pies make Georgetown look way more regional. NY/NJ/va and California. Whereas ND has a lot more beefier slices.

+1 Georgetown is much more regional. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that is a truly national student body.

Only because of its football team

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

Now add in asian and south asian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

And that's the problem with Georgetown. Its endowment is about 3 billion - the lowest easily among the top 30 colleges - and Notre Dame is about 20 billion. So Georgetown skews rich. Whereas Notre Dame can afford to bring in MC students. And that of course boosts the talent pool. Which makes Notre Dame the better school these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

Now add in asian and south asian

1037 asian at Georgetown
508 asian at ND.

I'm not sure what story you think this is telling. I know what it's telling me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those two pies make Georgetown look way more regional. NY/NJ/va and California. Whereas ND has a lot more beefier slices.

+1 Georgetown is much more regional. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that is a truly national student body.

GU has students from all 50 states (as does ND) and more international students. ND students are mostly white, Catholic, and upper-middle class. GU is more diverse in that respect.

37% of GU undergrads received need-based financial aid with the average package being $48k. 52% of students at ND received need based fin aid with the average package being $52k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

utterly false. ND is 3 percent black. It has some of the worst diversity figures in the US. https://datausa.io/profile/university/university-of-notre-dame#:~:text=Enrollment%20by%20Race%20%26%20Ethnicity&text=The%20enrolled%20student%20population%20at%20University%20of%20Notre%20Dame%20is,Hawaiian%20or%20Other%20Pacific%20Islanders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

Here are a couple of pie charts reflecting undergraduate racial-ethnic diversity breakdown:

Notre Dame: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

Georgetown: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/georgetown-university/student-life/diversity/#ethnic_diversity

As one can see, Notre Dame is over 2/3 white; GU is under half white. ND has a higher percentage of Hispanics, probably because many Hispanics are Catholic. ND has very few black students -- just 3.4%, while GU has more than twice that at 7%. GU is 18.6% international; ND is 5.5% international. Add in the ND is overwhelmingly Catholic, and it's hard to conclude that GU is not more diverse.

I know ND is trying to overcome its diversity shortfall, so this breakdown may be changing.

[Anonymous]

Why are you comparing them so intensely? Most kids interested in GU are not going to be interested in ND and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:894 black and Hispanic undergrads at georgetown out of 7900. 11.3%

1513 Black and Hispanic undergrads at ND out of 8971. 16.9%

so .. when you say GU is more diverse, what do you mean?

I do think it's more international. It always has been. No FA for intl at Georgetown so lots of rich international kids. ND offers FA to international.

Georgetown misses out on a lot of UMC bcs they take home equity into account. Makes for a bigger doughnut hole than others. It's full pay or lots of need. Very little in between.

Here are a couple of pie charts reflecting undergraduate racial-ethnic diversity breakdown:

Notre Dame: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/chart-undergraduate-racial-ethnic-diversity.html

Georgetown: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/georgetown-university/student-life/diversity/#ethnic_diversity

As one can see, Notre Dame is over 2/3 white; GU is under half white. ND has a higher percentage of Hispanics, probably because many Hispanics are Catholic. ND has very few black students -- just 3.4%, while GU has more than twice that at 7%. GU is 18.6% international; ND is 5.5% international. Add in the ND is overwhelmingly Catholic, and it's hard to conclude that GU is not more diverse.

I know ND is trying to overcome its diversity shortfall, so this breakdown may be changing.

Common Data Set has better numbers

[Anonymous]

If academics are the priority, Georgetown by a mile!