All Boys School For Gay Son?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’d suggest STA over any of the schools you mentioned.

Absolutely not. STA community is very conservative. Lots of Trump families there. Absolutely do not send a kid that is gay there.

Plenty of gay men voted for Turnip. Your point is?

Sure I bet! We are not talking about that. We are talking about boys schools and particularly STA and the Trump supporting families I know at STA would not support or welcome a gay boy socially. It would be isolating.

Again, this is life. I know plenty of progressives at STA. We need more mixing of people with different outlooks. You may just learn tolerance!

DP. Tolerance yes of course support differing views. Tolerating bigotry, homophobia, racist comments and stereotypes, anti-Semitism, no not tolerating that.

I wonder if colleges are looking at the character of students and their families with all going on in this country? I would say anti-Semitism or homophobia even if disguised or done subtly would be of interest?

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Anonymous wrote:He won't get in to Prep. The admin interview team has flawless gay-dar. Gonzaga would be fine. 50/50 on Landon.

The Prep staff may be reacting to the fallout from a wrenching experience several years ago. No one there wants to go throughout something like that again and the Admissions staff knows this.

Omg. What is wrong with you? Justifying discrimination because of the criminal history by the institution in question. Go to mass and get right in the head. My God,this is so messed up.

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely gay boys at Gonzaga. There are also openly gay, married teachers (my son has 2 this year). Pride flags in many classrooms. Would I send my son to Gonzaga if he was out in 8th grade? Probably not. We would go public or GDS or something. However, Gonzaga is pretty liberal. I think non-Catholics would be surprised how accepting Jesuits schools can be.

pps lumping Gonzaga in as a generic "catholic" unwelcoming culture do not know Gonzaga. I have a recent grad and current boy at Gonzaga. Besides openly gay teachers, men and women, some married, there are staff children who are gay and many other gay boys and clubs, etc.

Have any of these folks been allowed to celebrate their marriage at St. Al’s? Accepting is one thing. And it certainly is important. But being a full member of the community is another. That’s the point.

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely gay boys at Gonzaga. There are also openly gay, married teachers (my son has 2 this year). Pride flags in many classrooms. Would I send my son to Gonzaga if he was out in 8th grade? Probably not. We would go public or GDS or something. However, Gonzaga is pretty liberal. I think non-Catholics would be surprised how accepting Jesuits schools can be.

pps lumping Gonzaga in as a generic "catholic" unwelcoming culture do not know Gonzaga. I have a recent grad and current boy at Gonzaga. Besides openly gay teachers, men and women, some married, there are staff children who are gay and many other gay boys and clubs, etc.

Have any of these folks been allowed to celebrate their marriage at St. Al’s? Accepting is one thing. And it certainly is important. But being a full member of the community is another. That’s the point.

if you say so

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely gay boys at Gonzaga. There are also openly gay, married teachers (my son has 2 this year). Pride flags in many classrooms. Would I send my son to Gonzaga if he was out in 8th grade? Probably not. We would go public or GDS or something. However, Gonzaga is pretty liberal. I think non-Catholics would be surprised how accepting Jesuits schools can be.

pps lumping Gonzaga in as a generic "catholic" unwelcoming culture do not know Gonzaga. I have a recent grad and current boy at Gonzaga. Besides openly gay teachers, men and women, some married, there are staff children who are gay and many other gay boys and clubs, etc.

Have any of these folks been allowed to celebrate their marriage at St. Al’s? Accepting is one thing. And it certainly is important. But being a full member of the community is another. That’s the point.

if you say so

The Catholic Church says so.

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Send him to Sidwell, GDS, or another inclusive school.

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I don't understand why the principal question--or at least just as important a question--is catholic versus not. Many posters have mentioned that STA is more accepting in this way. STA is part of the PECF, and the Episcopal Church has long been a loving, accepting, inclusive place. The Catholic Church is not. Hasn't been, isn't now. Not for homosexuals, not for reproductive rights, not for gender identity. That's not to say there might not be progressives within a Catholic community, but come on. Look to the doctrine of the church running the school and the affiliation of the school. That's where the directives and values come from.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the principal question--or at least just as important a question--is catholic versus not. Many posters have mentioned that STA is more accepting in this way. STA is part of the PECF, and the Episcopal Church has long been a loving, accepting, inclusive place. The Catholic Church is not. Hasn't been, isn't now. Not for homosexuals, not for reproductive rights, not for gender identity. That's not to say there might not be progressives within a Catholic community, but come on. Look to the doctrine of the church running the school and the affiliation of the school. That's where the directives and values come from.

*why the question ISN'T Catholic versus not.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a gay son, and he's interested in attending Gonzaga, Georgetown Prep, and Landon. Although he's gay, he reads as masculine and most people wouldn't really suspect him to be gay. I am worried about how he will be treated at an all-boys school, because they are stereotyped as being homophobic.

Would it be wise to consider attending one of these schools, or should we look for a more progressive environment?

Most all boys schools believe the benefit of all male education comes in part because it does not have the distractions that might occur in a coed setting. You will find it in their promotional material. You can infer what that means about their world view.

It's not the distraction as much as it is the learning differences and executive functioning differences (just different rates of development between boys and girls, generally). Not all this is generalizable, of course, but for some boys and for some girls, the differences in brain development really matter.

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely gay boys at Gonzaga. There are also openly gay, married teachers (my son has 2 this year). Pride flags in many classrooms. Would I send my son to Gonzaga if he was out in 8th grade? Probably not. We would go public or GDS or something. However, Gonzaga is pretty liberal. I think non-Catholics would be surprised how accepting Jesuits schools can be.

pps lumping Gonzaga in as a generic "catholic" unwelcoming culture do not know Gonzaga. I have a recent grad and current boy at Gonzaga. Besides openly gay teachers, men and women, some married, there are staff children who are gay and many other gay boys and clubs, etc.

Have any of these folks been allowed to celebrate their marriage at St. Al’s? Accepting is one thing. And it certainly is important. But being a full member of the community is another. That’s the point.

What is St. Al’s?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the principal question--or at least just as important a question--is catholic versus not. Many posters have mentioned that STA is more accepting in this way. STA is part of the PECF, and the Episcopal Church has long been a loving, accepting, inclusive place. The Catholic Church is not. Hasn't been, isn't now. Not for homosexuals, not for reproductive rights, not for gender identity. That's not to say there might not be progressives within a Catholic community, but come on. Look to the doctrine of the church running the school and the affiliation of the school. That's where the directives and values come from.

Well maybe for those who don’t have the pedigree to be accepted or $50,000 to pay tuition would appreciate a less expensive and welcoming option.

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Anonymous wrote:Why on earth would you or your son want to send him to a school that generally believes that his sexual orientation is a fast track to eternal damnation? I understand that there are some marginally more accepting leaders than before in the Church, but the orthodoxy still is intolerant.

I’m not Catholic so I can accept whatever criticism anyone wants to levy…but I’d like to think that if I subscribed to a religion that was in direct conflict with my kid’s identity, I’d throw it overboard in support of my child.

Even if you are politically conservative or moderate, why not suggest that he go somewhere that he can be as open as chooses to be or not be. I’m not suggesting that he needs to decide today how “out” he is, but there’s no way to gauge how he will feel next year or three years from now. Sending him to Georgetown Prep feels to me like a prayer for repression.

Right. Stick with you’re not Catholic. There is a big difference between the official line of the worldwide church and what happens in local institutions. You would be surprised; read what people are posting.

Right, but you’re saying that not religious followers actually follow the liturgy of the religion. While certainly true, why would you want to send your kid to a school that is guided at an existential level by orthodoxy that rejects your child’s identity. It doesn’t mean that everyone at a Catholic school is anti-gay, but the people who are supportive are doing so DESPITE the teaching of the church, not BECAUSE of the teaching. It just seems nuts to me.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’d suggest STA over any of the schools you mentioned.

Absolutely not. STA community is very conservative. Lots of Trump families there. Absolutely do not send a kid that is gay there.

Plenty of gay men voted for Turnip. Your point is?

Sure I bet! We are not talking about that. We are talking about boys schools and particularly STA and the Trump supporting families I know at STA would not support or welcome a gay boy socially. It would be isolating.

Ew, how much of a problem is this still? Haven't the early trumpers gotten a little bit dissuaded after an insurrection, call to violence, visible decline in cognitive ability and bowel function, and countless criminal indictments?

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Wow OP you win for worst parent of the year.

Catholics and homosexuality you can not be this dumb!

Shane on you your poor kid.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I’d suggest STA over any of the schools you mentioned.

Absolutely not. STA community is very conservative. Lots of Trump families there. Absolutely do not send a kid that is gay there.

Plenty of gay men voted for Turnip. Your point is?

Sure I bet! We are not talking about that. We are talking about boys schools and particularly STA and the Trump supporting families I know at STA would not support or welcome a gay boy socially. It would be isolating.

Cool story. There are definitely gay grads of STA. Last I checked, the ones I know had a good time and valued their education.

The ones that did okay came out after being at the school for years. They were already friends with the boys.

Coming to the school as a new student being openly gay nope.

More projections, eh?

I'll repeat what I said earlier. Only OP and his son will know. Visit the schools and let instinct guide them. The fit will involve a lot more than just sexuality. The last thing OP should do is to listen to a bunch of "allies" with their cliché views and prejudices.

There is no glossing over what the church fundamentally stands for and teaches, whether you like it or not. You can't no true scotsman your way out of it. OP, your child's mental health is at stake. The chance of damage isn't low, but would even the lowest chance be worth it?