How has Karl Frisch raised $371,559 for his campaign, when . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and completely untrue. There is definitely hate felt.

I guess if you feel that way it's probably projection. You tend to feel the hate you give

Karl is an advocate. He builds his entire life around hate.

DP:Huh? What does that even mean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

Frisch made every Covid-related decision with a view towards minimizing any conceivable risk for his gay partner. Kids came last for him, and they still do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

Our private school did and there were no issues. All the preschools were open. People took precautions. People were out and about. There were ways to do things. They didn’t try.

[Anonymous]

I hate how every thread about Karl Frisch turns into a thread about his sexuality. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS SEXUALITY. I care that he has been a proponent for wasting money and building a school where a school was not needed. I am a Shrevewood parent whose youngest child is likely to be zoned to the new Dunn Loring school once it is built. We've spent years building relationships at our current school. We LOVE it there. And you're moving my child to a new school why exactly?? We didn't ask for this, we just asked for rezoning to relieve some congestion and guess what? Post Covid our school isn't even overcrowded anymore. Dunn Loring is a HUGE waste of money. That's why I don't like this guy. NOT because of his sexuality, I don't give a shit who he loves. I do give a shit that he's in this for his OWN interests and not the community's interests.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, his entire career since HS has been as a political operative of some sort, so I would guess that he has more knowledge and connections into fundraising than many of the other candidates. This is also why I don't really trust him. He is not in it for the kids (especially since he does not have any of his own) but for himself.

You are totally out of line. I didn't have kids until I was 42 but I was fully invested in my community and fully committed to public education (even taught for 7 years before burning out) so I cared deeply about the school system long before I had kids. You don't have to spawn to care about good schools. In fact, since he isn't distracted by child rearing, he has more time to devote to the work.

Every time I see people commenting on Frisch not having kids, it reads to me like an anti-gay dog whistle.

FWIW, my understanding is that his husband is a teacher. So that gives him even more skin in the game than a parent, and more quality knowledge from the reality inside a school and the system at large. I'd take that as a personal family qualification more than being the random parent of a 5th grader.

Anyone aho refers to children as spawn is not very credible on anything related to education.

A+ effort at deflection.

Now respond to the substance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

Agree 100%. ANd you cannot compare private schools. People pay to attend and they are much small and more manageable in terms of student numbers. FCPS and Flint Hill . . . or Paul VI . . . you just cannot compare them.

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Anonymous wrote:How do this many people support someone with no children in the system? It blows my mind.

I actually worked at my kid's school bakesale at the polls where these people got elected.

It was 100% an anti trump vote. Most people voting the day I was there were pretty vocal about it. I had never seen anything like it. They were openly saying things like blue no matter who, and that they didn't care who was running or what their qualifications were, as long as they weren't from trumps party. It was really weird, to be honest.

That is how we ended up with a school board full of folks like Frisch. It was not a school board vote. It was an anti trump election.

Why is it weird? Repub voters do it all the time. . . . straight line vote based on the "R" behind a name. Regardless of who the other candidate is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
You are totally out of line. I didn't have kids until I was 42 but I was fully invested in my community and fully committed to public education (even taught for 7 years before burning out) so I cared deeply about the school system long before I had kids. You don't have to spawn to care about good schools. In fact, since he isn't distracted by child rearing, he has more time to devote to the work.

Every time I see people commenting on Frisch not having kids, it reads to me like an anti-gay dog whistle.

FWIW, my understanding is that his husband is a teacher. So that gives him even more skin in the game than a parent, and more quality knowledge from the reality inside a school and the system at large. I'd take that as a personal family qualification more than being the random parent of a 5th grader.

Just because someone’s husband is a teacher does not make them a teacher.
My hubby is a special agent with the feds, does not make me a special agent.
People on the board should have an education background like a teacher or have a child in the school district.

EVERY SINGLE TIME anyone criticizes Karl Frisch someone comes on here claiming homophobia. This criticism has absolutely nothing to do with his sexual orientation. This guy is so VERY clearly just a political hack who is using the school board as a stepping stone into state politics (and maybe some day national politics). Just like his friend Dalia. I've posted this before but when he was going door to door, he LIED to me and said he had children in FCPS. Flat out lied. I am so ashamed that I voted for him.

Because it is very thinly veiled homophobia. You think he is the only one making decisions that would also benefit his family? Or using it as a launching pad for other political goals? Yet he's the one that gets called out.

And the "no kids" thing is routinely trotted out here. How dare the gay guy with no kids have an opinion or view about the schools? (The answer: lots of people do. I was on PTA and we had people last year speak as to school matters who did not have kids at the school, or kids at all).

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His current work with the schools is not well received nor are the results coming out on achievement. The schools are losing students and not doing as well. He doesn't have the same details of the school system that someone with kids has. He has a political agenda and very clearly is in it for politics rather than other reasons. The money he raised is a clear sign of this. No one needs this much for a school board race. He could have stopped or not agreed to the money, but he didn't. He just isn't as qualified as other people running and has motivations I don't care about as much. Despite having a teacher as a partner, teachers are leaving. I also don't like his voting record, but I think part of that is not ever being in the weeds of being a parent with kids in a school system and getting to know a community in that way, so he makes poor decisions. It may be thinly veiled bias, but it is bias based on real observations of people who haven't gone through an experience which I judge many people by for office. There are even tropes of people like this. The mom of the 2-year-old who thinks she knows everything about parenting and giving advice out. I'm happy he is invested in the community, but he doesn't have a connection to very many women and children in the community and is not connecting with them well or doing things that these cohorts are looking for. He is also taking in money that is unjustified for this race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate how every thread about Karl Frisch turns into a thread about his sexuality. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS SEXUALITY. I care that he has been a proponent for wasting money and building a school where a school was not needed. I am a Shrevewood parent whose youngest child is likely to be zoned to the new Dunn Loring school once it is built. We've spent years building relationships at our current school. We LOVE it there. And you're moving my child to a new school why exactly?? We didn't ask for this, we just asked for rezoning to relieve some congestion and guess what? Post Covid our school isn't even overcrowded anymore. Dunn Loring is a HUGE waste of money. That's why I don't like this guy. NOT because of his sexuality, I don't give a shit who he loves. I do give a shit that he's in this for his OWN interests and not the community's interests.

Great. I'm glad you don't. But there are many, many parents who do. And their politics come out every time a Moms for Liberty group wants to ban a book. It's scary bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

DP. Fifty percent of students and teachers wanted to be in person in the fall of 2020. The school board and administration tried but just thought it would be too hard to make happen so they gave up.

There were schools in other areas that reopened partially, because they prioritized it. But we didn't. And we prevented FCCPS from reopening when they figured out how to do it. That was low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate how every thread about Karl Frisch turns into a thread about his sexuality. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS SEXUALITY. I care that he has been a proponent for wasting money and building a school where a school was not needed. I am a Shrevewood parent whose youngest child is likely to be zoned to the new Dunn Loring school once it is built. We've spent years building relationships at our current school. We LOVE it there. And you're moving my child to a new school why exactly?? We didn't ask for this, we just asked for rezoning to relieve some congestion and guess what? Post Covid our school isn't even overcrowded anymore. Dunn Loring is a HUGE waste of money. That's why I don't like this guy. NOT because of his sexuality, I don't give a shit who he loves. I do give a shit that he's in this for his OWN interests and not the community's interests.

He’s a pompous jerk. And it’s his supporters who make everything about his sexuality because they like to label people homophobic if they call him out for championing dumb initiatives like that school in Dunn Loring that isn’t needed and next to no one wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When people point out that he has no kids it's not an anti-gay thing. It's pointing out that he has no long term stake in how children/students are getting educated. Sure, his partner is a teacher...but most parents are primarily interested in how public schools are serving the KIDS, and secondarily interested in how teachers are benefitting from FCPS.

He has no background in education policy or practice; ,and he isn't even as educated as most parents (no bachelors or trade degree). So we are left wondering what he actually brings to the table. Gay-representation is one thing...and that's a plus...but then covid hit, and we found out that his priority is himself 9ver the 189,000 students (himsrlf and his partner...with the dramatic tears rather than c9ncerning himself with what 189000 KIDS needed). That's when he lost me forever.

If he had kids in FCPS, he would have had to think about the damage to those kids. Since he doesn't have kids in public school...or kids at all...he was able to dismiss that from his concerns and focus entirely on his spouse to the exclusion of 189000 kids.

He has shown that when push comes to shove he's looking out for himself first.

oh please.
If you have a kid, you're looking out for 189,000 other kids?
You're never looking out for yourself or only your kid (especially if you're on DCUM -- no self promotion here!).
Focusing on desires of teachers is part of being on the school board.
Focusing on future generations (even if you're not a parent) is part of being on the school board.
Just admit that you were not "lost" when covid hit, but that you were never with the gays.

No I won't admit that. I have nothing against him for being gay. As I said, that fact that he brought that diversity was a slight plus. BUT, my kid ended up dropping OUT of FCPS because of the virtual mess. The virtual disaster isn't 100% on Frisch's shoulders, but the way he handled making his decision was a complete failure. He didn't make the decision based on a balanced assessment of the pros and cons. He got emotionally twisted up and essentially was not capable of looking beyond his own fears (that were not rational). So, that's where he lost me. I have no respect for him. He didn't consider my kid or your kid and the impact that closing schools would have. He got lost in his own dramas. I have no faith that he has much of anything to add to the school board after that.... and no degree... not even a technical degree? Couldn't be bothered to finish a college or technical degree??? what does that say about someone? Not good. Not who I want to represent my interests. But, my kid's time in FCPS is getting shorter and really, I'm pretty much over it at this point. Very little of what they do (good or bad) is going to impact my household directly. So, I can just skip the vote for Karl. But, I sure was glad to vote AGAINST him for the Dem primary for state rep. And I'll happily vote against him if I have a chance. Give me another gay or trans candidate and I'll vote for them... but not Karl.

He was right, and so was the board. You couldn't force teachers back into school before vaccines and before the peak of the pandemic. Only the states with no regard for workers did that. I'm sorry your student suffered. COVID sucked. The SB was still right.

DP. Fifty percent of students and teachers wanted to be in person in the fall of 2020. The school board and administration tried but just thought it would be too hard to make happen so they gave up.

There were schools in other areas that reopened partially, because they prioritized it. But we didn't. And we prevented FCCPS from reopening when they figured out how to do it. That was low.

Really? How did we influence FCCPS? That’s news to me. The younger kids should have been a priority to return to school. Kindergarten and first grade online is just not worth it.

[Anonymous]

Some people are homophobic.
Karl is a bad SB member and doesn’t belong in the board.

Both these things are true. #1 does not make #2 false.