Does ED help at UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

Where are you seeing that? From uva admission website, seeing 83 admitted from waitlist in 2021 and only 7 in 2022. I do not see a 2023 waitlist admit count
listed there and except for COVID year, numbers are low.

They definitely went more to waitlist this past cycle than the two prior. 26 percent sounds wrong though.

Meant to say 16 percent sounds wrong

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is a perfect example of people pontificating over the obvious. There has never been a year when Ed acceptance rates were lower than EA or RD.

If the percentage was lower in ED this year then no one would apply ED in the future.

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Last year not there yet, but you can see a few years of waitlist under the history part.

https://admission.virginia.edu/waitlist

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UVA deanJ is pretty clear that ED gives no advantage, it is just a good option for those for whom UVA is first choice and they can end the entire process by December. They have the same admission standards in ED, EA and RD. Maybe the RD candidates are a slightly less academic calibre (kids just throwing in one more app) and hence RD rate of acceptance is lower.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA deanJ is pretty clear that ED gives no advantage, it is just a good option for those for whom UVA is first choice and they can end the entire process by December. They have the same admission standards in ED, EA and RD. Maybe the RD candidates are a slightly less academic calibre (kids just throwing in one more app) and hence RD rate of acceptance is lower.

She does say this. But I’ve also heard they limit ED acceptances.

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Is anyone applying ED to UVA this year? The school seems to not want ED applications.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

Yeah. That’s a “let’s see who are legacy are beyond your parents”- since parents education/alma mater is already in common app.

UVA says that they are suppressing the common app info about parents so they won’t see it

I don't think you have that right. It sounds like they removed a legacy yes/no question and instead added an open answer question.

https://admission.virginia.edu/faqs
What if I have a family connection to UVA?

Any applicant who has an historical family connection to UVA (i.e. child of a UVA graduate, child of a faculty member, descendant of an enslaved laborer, etc.) is invited to share information on their connection to the University in an optional question on the Common Application.

They have explicitly stated in multiple info sessions that the parent education information from the common app is suppressed and that they won’t know if you are a legacy unless you write the optional essay

But if you write you have a relative in the optional essay then they will practice legacy admissions. You see the semantics?

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

Yeah. That’s a “let’s see who are legacy are beyond your parents”- since parents education/alma mater is already in common app.

UVA says that they are suppressing the common app info about parents so they won’t see it

I don't think you have that right. It sounds like they removed a legacy yes/no question and instead added an open answer question.

https://admission.virginia.edu/faqs
What if I have a family connection to UVA?

Any applicant who has an historical family connection to UVA (i.e. child of a UVA graduate, child of a faculty member, descendant of an enslaved laborer, etc.) is invited to share information on their connection to the University in an optional question on the Common Application.

They have explicitly stated in multiple info sessions that the parent education information from the common app is suppressed and that they won’t know if you are a legacy unless you write the optional essay

But if you write you have a relative in the optional essay then they will practice legacy admissions. You see the semantics?

Perhaps. My kid is an OOS legacy applying ED. It’s still really hard to get in and we are realistic.