Does ED help at UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?


They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?


They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.


+1

Basically, state schools also want to know who is applying because it is cheap, and who is applying because they want to be there. Sometimes these two types of applicants are the same, but not always.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?


They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.


+1

Basically, state schools also want to know who is applying because it is cheap, and who is applying because they want to be there. Sometimes these two types of applicants are the same, but not always.


Although they also say that they don't practice yield protection
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

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Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

The
Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.


Really? Where was the info session? And was this recent?

From their website: We maintain a consistent review throughout the application process so there is no advantage to choosing one application plan over another.

https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/deadlines-instructions

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?


They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.


But it doesn’t need to be binding for them to give you an earlier decision. Why make it binding if it gives no advantage? Just make it EA.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?


They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.


But it doesn’t need to be binding for them to give you an earlier decision. Why make it binding if it gives no advantage? Just make it EA.


I guess they can't make decisions on 50,000 applications by December but they can make decisions on 4,000 applications. So that is the bargain they are making.
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

The
Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.


Really? Where was the info session? And was this recent?

From their website: We maintain a consistent review throughout the application process so there is no advantage to choosing one application plan over another.

https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/deadlines-instructions



Last fall at uva
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

The
Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.


Really? Where was the info session? And was this recent?

From their website: We maintain a consistent review throughout the application process so there is no advantage to choosing one application plan over another.

https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/deadlines-instructions



Last fall at uva


I don't think the information on their website is new. I'm surprised they were encouraging ED. I saw a presentation a year ago at UVA and they said it doesn't really make a difference. Just apply EA if you aren't 100 sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.


Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

The
Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.


Really? Where was the info session? And was this recent?

From their website: We maintain a consistent review throughout the application process so there is no advantage to choosing one application plan over another.

https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/deadlines-instructions



Last fall at uva


I don't think the information on their website is new. I'm surprised they were encouraging ED. I saw a presentation a year ago at UVA and they said it doesn't really make a difference. Just apply EA if you aren't 100 sure.


I think a lot of people hear what they want to at these things. Even when it contradicts what they have on their website and what others have heard admissions say.
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Anonymous wrote:They're probably addressing it because people see the percentage and assume it's easier to get in. The percent is higher, but the number is low. It's probably a strong group of applications. Pulling this off the admissions blog.

2022-2023
ED offers: 1,040
EA offers: 6,243
RD offers: 2,123



Dean J has repeatedly said that the EA group is the strongest, which makes sense because it can include kids who apply REA to an Ivy.


So if EA is a stronger pool, why is the acceptance rate in ED higher?


Seriously? Because it’s an easier admit.


That is the original question. UVA says it's not an easier admit.

The
Where did you hear that? The info session I went to, they made clear that ED was the best chance for acceptance.


Really? Where was the info session? And was this recent?

From their website: We maintain a consistent review throughout the application process so there is no advantage to choosing one application plan over another.

https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/deadlines-instructions



Last fall at uva


I don't think the information on their website is new. I'm surprised they were encouraging ED. I saw a presentation a year ago at UVA and they said it doesn't really make a difference. Just apply EA if you aren't 100 sure.


I think a lot of people hear what they want to at these things. Even when it contradicts what they have on their website and what others have heard admissions say.


The numbers don’t lie.
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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.


Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.


If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.
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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.


Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.


If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.


The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.
Anonymous
Attended a UVA info session this week and the admissions officer said that they are conservative with ED admissions. She actually made it seem that it is a disadvantage.
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