Does ED help at UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

Yeah. That’s a “let’s see who are legacy are beyond your parents”- since parents education/alma mater is already in common app.

UVA says that they are suppressing the common app info about parents so they won’t see it

I don't think you have that right. It sounds like they removed a legacy yes/no question and instead added an open answer question.

https://admission.virginia.edu/faqs
What if I have a family connection to UVA?

Any applicant who has an historical family connection to UVA (i.e. child of a UVA graduate, child of a faculty member, descendant of an enslaved laborer, etc.) is invited to share information on their connection to the University in an optional question on the Common Application.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

Yeah. That’s a “let’s see who are legacy are beyond your parents”- since parents education/alma mater is already in common app.

UVA says that they are suppressing the common app info about parents so they won’t see it

I don't think you have that right. It sounds like they removed a legacy yes/no question and instead added an open answer question.

https://admission.virginia.edu/faqs
What if I have a family connection to UVA?

Any applicant who has an historical family connection to UVA (i.e. child of a UVA graduate, child of a faculty member, descendant of an enslaved laborer, etc.) is invited to share information on their connection to the University in an optional question on the Common Application.

They have explicitly stated in multiple info sessions that the parent education information from the common app is suppressed and that they won’t know if you are a legacy unless you write the optional essay

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

Same is true of every other college. Chief Justice Roberts said no check off box but ok if if race is raised by the applicant in an essay. So now both race and legacy are discussed in the essay. They are following his specific directions in SFFA v Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

According to their website (under admissions review) family relationships are no longer part of the review. I was surprised to see that.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

Same is true of every other college. Chief Justice Roberts said no check off box but ok if if race is raised by the applicant in an essay. So now both race and legacy are discussed in the essay. They are following his specific directions in SFFA v Harvard.

The Supreme Ct didn’t say anything about legacy. This has nothing to do with legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

According to their website (under admissions review) family relationships are no longer part of the review. I was surprised to see that.

Interesting. As with race, the language here seems to be hair-splitting--there's no more checkbox, not if you tell us about it as part of your story, we will consider it.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

According to their website (under admissions review) family relationships are no longer part of the review. I was surprised to see that.

Interesting. As with race, the language here seems to be hair-splitting--there's no more checkbox, not if you tell us about it as part of your story, we will consider it.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

Same is true of every other college. Chief Justice Roberts said no check off box but ok if if race is raised by the applicant in an essay. So now both race and legacy are discussed in the essay. They are following his specific directions in SFFA v Harvard.

The Supreme Ct didn’t say anything about legacy. This has nothing to do with legacy.

Wrong. Race and legacy are interrelated perks for admissions. It's just a matter of time. Schools like UVA are preparing by eliminating the legacy preference. No more box. You can raise race and legacy issues in an essay, but that's always been true everwhere. https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

Doesn't mean there's an advantage, the pool could be stronger.

If we are going by what Dean J says, EA is the strongest pool And it also is when athletic recruits apply.

I will say that UVA’s public statements about legacies also don’t seem to be a hundred percent accurate.

ED has the best admissions odds, by their own data, regardless of what the website says.

The legacy stuff is weird. They have an essay to talk about it but then say they don’t consider it or race.

All schools are now doing that post the Scotus decision. Roberts said race could be discussed in the essay. So the box is gone and applicants are told to bring up race in the essay

UVA has both a diversity essay and a UVA connections essay

Most schools have multiple prompts. Ask any college counselor. They will tell you to work your story into an essay. That's where the game is now being played.

Are there other selective schools that have a legacy essay?

Most top schools (ivies etc) still have legacy. Period. UVA did away with that in June.

They did not do away with legacy as an admissions factor. They just changed the way the information is shared with them.

Same is true of every other college. Chief Justice Roberts said no check off box but ok if if race is raised by the applicant in an essay. So now both race and legacy are discussed in the essay. They are following his specific directions in SFFA v Harvard.

The Supreme Ct didn’t say anything about legacy. This has nothing to do with legacy.

Wrong. Race and legacy are interrelated perks for admissions. It's just a matter of time. Schools like UVA are preparing by eliminating the legacy preference. No more box. You can raise race and legacy issues in an essay, but that's always been true everwhere. https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

Legacy is not a protected class.

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Legacy is not a protected class.

But it provides a boost in admissions based on where mommy and daddy went to school and isn't related to merit.

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ED is a disadvantage at UVA this year. Better to apply EA if you have strong stats etc.

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Anonymous wrote:ED is a disadvantage at UVA this year. Better to apply EA if you have strong stats etc.

Why, the outcome options from both are identical: In, Out, Wait. Am I right?

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Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.