Does ED help at UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ED is a disadvantage at UVA this year. Better to apply EA if you have strong stats etc.

Why, the outcome options from both are identical: In, Out, Wait. Am I right?

Bc UVA is going to be conservative with ED this year. They don’t want to seem like it’s an easier admit bc they know it favors rich kids. And now they can’t defer so better to apply EA when they have seen a much larger part of the applicant pool and they don’t have to be conservative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ED is a disadvantage at UVA this year. Better to apply EA if you have strong stats etc.

Why, the outcome options from both are identical: In, Out, Wait. Am I right?

Bc UVA is going to be conservative with ED this year. They don’t want to seem like it’s an easier admit bc they know it favors rich kids. And now they can’t defer so better to apply EA when they have seen a much larger part of the applicant pool and they don’t have to be conservative.

I think they can easily predict what both pools will be, this is not the first year of ED. Their algos are smart enough. But yeah, ED might not provide any edge over EA and RD, the gap in acceptance rate between ED and EA has been diminishing every year. from amost 10pp two years ago to 5pp last year. It could be very close this year, true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ED is a disadvantage at UVA this year. Better to apply EA if you have strong stats etc.

Why, the outcome options from both are identical: In, Out, Wait. Am I right?

Bc UVA is going to be conservative with ED this year. They don’t want to seem like it’s an easier admit bc they know it favors rich kids. And now they can’t defer so better to apply EA when they have seen a much larger part of the applicant pool and they don’t have to be conservative.

I think they can easily predict what both pools will be, this is not the first year of ED. Their algos are smart enough. But yeah, ED might not provide any edge over EA and RD, the gap in acceptance rate between ED and EA has been diminishing every year. from amost 10pp two years ago to 5pp last year. It could be very close this year, true.

I am ok with ED not giving an edge. I don’t want it to put my kid at a disadvantage tho.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

That’s really high. I guess it’s not that popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

Where exactly did you see this stat? I see that 16% of regular decision applicants were offered a SPOT on the waitlist. Is that what you read and misinterpreted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

Where are you seeing that? From uva admission website, seeing 83 admitted from waitlist in 2021 and only 7 in 2022. I do not see a 2023 waitlist admit count listed there and except for COVID year, numbers are low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

What is the source for the statement that recruited athletes are told to apply EA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

Where are you seeing that? From uva admission website, seeing 83 admitted from waitlist in 2021 and only 7 in 2022. I do not see a 2023 waitlist admit count listed there and except for COVID year, numbers are low.

I don’t know the numbers for 2023 but I know they took a lot to OOS off the waitlist. Many more than past years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?

They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.

+1

Basically, state schools also want to know who is applying because it is cheap, and who is applying because they want to be there. Sometimes these two types of applicants are the same, but not always.

Although they also say that they don't practice yield protection

UVA says a lot of things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

What is the source for the statement that recruited athletes are told to apply EA?

I just went to an info session and they said that athletes are not part of any cycle. They do an academic review off cycle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone commit to a binding ED program if it gave no advantage. Why offer it at all then?

They say they offer it so that students can get a decision earlier, in December instead of February.

+1

Basically, state schools also want to know who is applying because it is cheap, and who is applying because they want to be there. Sometimes these two types of applicants are the same, but not always.

Although they also say that they don't practice yield protection

UVA says a lot of things.

Haha! So true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that UVA has done away with deferrals, does that mean the kids go straight to the waitlist if not accepted or denied?

Yes

Looking at common data set for 2021-22, over 8,600 kids waitlisted and 86 (not a typo) admitted from waitlist— if that holds go forward, it’s really straight to rejected.

But this past year something like 16% of OOS waitlist was offered a spot.

Where are you seeing that? From uva admission website, seeing 83 admitted from waitlist in 2021 and only 7 in 2022. I do not see a 2023 waitlist admit count listed there and except for COVID year, numbers are low.

They definitely went more to waitlist this past cycle than the two prior. 26 percent sounds wrong though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There clearly is a huge acceptance rate in ED, so yes, there is an advantage. Further, recruited athletes are told to apply EA so they are not in the ED applicant pool like they are at other schools.

What is the source for the statement that recruited athletes are told to apply EA?

I just went to an info session and they said that athletes are not part of any cycle. They do an academic review off cycle.

They get their decision same time as ea, for what that’s worth.

[Anonymous]

This thread is a perfect example of people pontificating over the obvious. There has never been a year when Ed acceptance rates were lower than EA or RD.