Georgetown or ND?

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Anonymous wrote:Fascinating the misinformation being shared about ND admissions on this thread. Go to the ND website and learn that the only restriction associated with REA has to do with only Early Decision. A student can apply REA anywhere else. People are confusing REA with SCEA.

I'm just curious and don't have a dog in this fight, but what exactly is the purpose of REA from an institutional standpoint? Like what advantages does it offer the university (or the student, for that matter) vs. SCEA or regular EA? I get SCEA, I get EA, I get ED...but REA as Notre Dame describes it doesn't make sense to me, especially because it seems like very few other schools have it?

From ND's standpoint, high achieving students applying REA show commitment to enroll based on the fact they cannot apply early decision elsewhere. It is much more fair to the applicant because it allows them to apply early to other schools as long as the applications are not binding. I believe it helps with their yield somewhat while giving applicants choices. High achieving students and legacy students are recommended to apply REA if they want the highest chance for admission.

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I think part of the confusion is that REA seems to mean something different to different schools? At Notre Dame, you can apply REA there and also apply EA to any other university, public or private, but apparently at other schools, if you apply REA you are prohibited from applying EA to other private schools? Weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Georgetown does. Why are so determined to be right on an anonymous chat board? You're wrong about this, you cannot applly REA to both Georgetown and ND. It's okay. Nobody knows who you are here. Move on.

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We just had this meeting with our HS college counselor. My son cannot apply to GU EA and any other private institution EA (no matter if it's restrictive or not). GU specifically says you can only apply to public Universities EA. That said, my son cannot apply to the Ivy REA and GU EA. He can apply to our state univ EA and Georgetown EA.

OMG please do some research!! Your counselor is WRONG. From the GU website:

In keeping with this principle, students applying under the Early Action program may not apply to any binding Early Decision programs since they then would not be free to choose Georgetown if admitted. Students are, however, allowed to apply to other Early Action or other Regular Decision programs while simultaneously applying to Georgetown’s Early Action program.

https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/applying/early-action/

He's not if the kid was going to REA at Princeton or Yale. With REA at those ivies you can only EA to a public university--so he would not be able to EA at GU and REA at HYP.

Early Action A Single Choice Early Action Plan is offered by Harvard, Princeton, and Yale. This plan does not require a commitment to matriculate, and students may apply to other colleges under those colleges’ regular admission programs (spring notification of final admission decision) but not to another private institution’s Early Action or Early Decision program.!

Now I'm confused. Can you tell me how a kid could apply to Georgetown, Princeton and ND? Could do all RD, of course. Could do one EA and two RD of course. But could you do two or all three EA?

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I think Georgetown is the better overall university considering undergrad and grad schools but either would be a great choice. They both have national name recognition and good reputations. I agree with a few people who have discussed how different they are though, so it might be a good time to delve into the college list and what your kid is looking for!

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Georgetown does. Why are so determined to be right on an anonymous chat board? You're wrong about this, you cannot applly REA to both Georgetown and ND. It's okay. Nobody knows who you are here. Move on.

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We just had this meeting with our HS college counselor. My son cannot apply to GU EA and any other private institution EA (no matter if it's restrictive or not). GU specifically says you can only apply to public Universities EA. That said, my son cannot apply to the Ivy REA and GU EA. He can apply to our state univ EA and Georgetown EA.

OMG please do some research!! Your counselor is WRONG. From the GU website:

In keeping with this principle, students applying under the Early Action program may not apply to any binding Early Decision programs since they then would not be free to choose Georgetown if admitted. Students are, however, allowed to apply to other Early Action or other Regular Decision programs while simultaneously applying to Georgetown’s Early Action program.

https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/applying/early-action/

+1 My kid (at a Big 3) was interested in both schools, and his counselor told him he could EA to both. I was a little surprised, but then read the EA policies of both schools, and sure enough, the counselor was correct! Agree that a student could not EA to GU or ND and also Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., though.

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the nice thing about ND is it is a dream school for so many kids and has that "we're so lucky we're here" vibe.

con is admin is more conservative.

the nice thing about gu is location and foreign service speciality (no brainer if this is of interest).

con is Richie Rich vibe.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Georgetown does. Why are so determined to be right on an anonymous chat board? You're wrong about this, you cannot applly REA to both Georgetown and ND. It's okay. Nobody knows who you are here. Move on.

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We just had this meeting with our HS college counselor. My son cannot apply to GU EA and any other private institution EA (no matter if it's restrictive or not). GU specifically says you can only apply to public Universities EA. That said, my son cannot apply to the Ivy REA and GU EA. He can apply to our state univ EA and Georgetown EA.

OMG please do some research!! Your counselor is WRONG. From the GU website:

In keeping with this principle, students applying under the Early Action program may not apply to any binding Early Decision programs since they then would not be free to choose Georgetown if admitted. Students are, however, allowed to apply to other Early Action or other Regular Decision programs while simultaneously applying to Georgetown’s Early Action program.

https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/applying/early-action/

He's not if the kid was going to REA at Princeton or Yale. With REA at those ivies you can only EA to a public university--so he would not be able to EA at GU and REA at HYP.

Early Action A Single Choice Early Action Plan is offered by Harvard, Princeton, and Yale. This plan does not require a commitment to matriculate, and students may apply to other colleges under those colleges’ regular admission programs (spring notification of final admission decision) but not to another private institution’s Early Action or Early Decision program.!

My statement still stands correct. The restriction is not coming from Georgetown...it is coming from the other schools' policies.

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Anonymous wrote:the nice thing about ND is it is a dream school for so many kids and has that "we're so lucky we're here" vibe.

con is admin is more conservative.

the nice thing about gu is location and foreign service speciality (no brainer if this is of interest).

con is Richie Rich vibe.

As the parent of an ND student, I agree with this vibe. 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Georgetown does. Why are so determined to be right on an anonymous chat board? You're wrong about this, you cannot applly REA to both Georgetown and ND. It's okay. Nobody knows who you are here. Move on.

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We just had this meeting with our HS college counselor. My son cannot apply to GU EA and any other private institution EA (no matter if it's restrictive or not). GU specifically says you can only apply to public Universities EA. That said, my son cannot apply to the Ivy REA and GU EA. He can apply to our state univ EA and Georgetown EA.

OMG please do some research!! Your counselor is WRONG. From the GU website:

In keeping with this principle, students applying under the Early Action program may not apply to any binding Early Decision programs since they then would not be free to choose Georgetown if admitted. Students are, however, allowed to apply to other Early Action or other Regular Decision programs while simultaneously applying to Georgetown’s Early Action program.

https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/applying/early-action/

+1 My kid (at a Big 3) was interested in both schools, and his counselor told him he could EA to both. I was a little surprised, but then read the EA policies of both schools, and sure enough, the counselor was correct! Agree that a student could not EA to GU or ND and also Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., though.

Yes, you can apply REA at Notre Dame and EA at Georgetown:
https://admissions.nd.edu/apply/early-action-regular-decision/
https://uadmissions.georgetown.edu/applying/early-action/

You CAN'T apply single choice EA at Princeton and apply EA at GU, ND, or any private school:
https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/first-year-application-dates-deadlines

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SCEA at HYP gives very little boost to any unhooked kid over RD. It's not a good strategy for most IMO

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Anonymous wrote:SCEA at HYP gives very little boost to any unhooked kid over RD. It's not a good strategy for most IMO

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Midwest and have SEVERAL ND friends, and casually know a few Georgetown people through work.

I'd say both are awesome and extremely expensive and kinda similar. Pick the one where he wants to live after college. If he wants to settle on the East Coast, pick Georgetown. If he wants to settle in the Midwest, pick Notre Dame. Both have super strong networks, but best most advantageous in their own regions

I don't think this is true. I could be wrong, but while I think Georgetown grads do settle in DC area more than most, I think ND grads end up all over. But there are stats on this you can look up. The ND club in nyc is enormous

Yeah, that made me laugh. I'm an ND grad, and of my college friends who were at my wedding in the dark ages... two is one in Illinois (Chicago suburbs), one in Indiana (Indianapolis), one in pretty rural Wisconsin, two are in NY (one in CT suburbs and one in NJ suburbs - both were in NYC for a while, but now have kids and a white picket fence and all that), one is in Seattle, one in San Jose CA, one is in Boston, I'm in Maryland.

So three of us are in the midwest - two of the three grew up there, the Chicago person moved there after college, fell in love, and the rest is history. But four are east coast and two are west coast. My guess is most of the east coast schools have grads who stay on the east coast.
So if you want geographic diversity - both during school and afterwards, ND is definitely a fantastic option.

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Anonymous wrote:the nice thing about ND is it is a dream school for so many kids and has that "we're so lucky we're here" vibe.[i][u]

con is admin is more conservative.

the nice thing about gu is location and foreign service speciality (no brainer if this is of interest).

con is Richie Rich vibe.

Yup. I'm an alum and this is correct. Some of us got rejected from Ivies or Duke or wherever, but most of us truly had ND as a first choice.

Which is why these threads are always ridiculous. There's no need to talk a kid into Notre Dame. If they visit and love it, it's the school for them. If they don't love it, it's not the right school. And that's OK! ND is for the smart kid who was also on student government and genuinely got excited at pep rallies in high school. It's not for the smart kid who sat in the back and rolled their eyes, or tried to escape to the library. There are great schools out there for every kid.
So as was said several posts ago - go visit both schools. One of them will be right for your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:the nice thing about ND is it is a dream school for so many kids and has that "we're so lucky we're here" vibe.[i][u]

con is admin is more conservative.

the nice thing about gu is location and foreign service speciality (no brainer if this is of interest).

con is Richie Rich vibe.

Yup. I'm an alum and this is correct. Some of us got rejected from Ivies or Duke or wherever, but most of us truly had ND as a first choice.

Which is why these threads are always ridiculous. There's no need to talk a kid into Notre Dame. If they visit and love it, it's the school for them. If they don't love it, it's not the right school. And that's OK! ND is for the smart kid who was also on student government and genuinely got excited at pep rallies in high school. It's not for the smart kid who sat in the back and rolled their eyes, or tried to escape to the library. There are great schools out there for every kid.
So as was said several posts ago - go visit both schools. One of them will be right for your kid.

This is spot on. “ND kid” and “GT kid” are cut from as different a type of cloth equivalent to the differences in the two campuses. Go visit. Talk to alums. Etc.

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“ND is for the smart kid who was also on student government and genuinely got excited at pep rallies in high school. It's not for the smart kid who sat in the back and rolled their eyes, or tried to escape to the library. There are great schools out there for every kid. ”

Unless he excels in sports of course. But there is away around that too:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/