Georgetown or ND?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Georgetown does. Why are so determined to be right on an anonymous chat board? You're wrong about this, you cannot applly REA to both Georgetown and ND. It's okay. Nobody knows who you are here. Move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

Again you are wrong. It is determined on whether or not the other REA school has that restriction. ND does not.

Correct.

"Restrictive Early Action

Unlike Non-Restrictive Early Action, colleges with Restrictive Early Action policies have stipulations that govern where students can apply in the Early round of admissions. For instance, no college with a Restrictive Early Action policy will allow its applicants to submit an Early Decision I application to another college. Georgetown University and the University of Notre Dame are cases in point. A student can apply Restrictive Early Action to Georgetown and Notre Dame, but that same applicant cannot apply Early Decision to the University of Pennsylvania."

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/early-decision-early-action/schools-with-early-action/#:~:text=Georgetown%20University%20and%20the%20University,to%20the%20University%20of%20Pennsylvania.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

LOL you are really ignorant. Georgetown doesn't even have REA.

Some schools' REA programs do not allow students to apply to other REA programs. ND is not one of those. The only restriction is that students may not apply to binding Early Decision I programs. They CAN apply to ED II programs with REA because their decisions will be announced before those EDII applications are due.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.

Oh FFS. It's okay to be stubborn when well informed, but ...

From ND Admissions site:

Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.

You're really sticking to your guns here, aren't you? You may not apply to two restrictive action programs. Georgetown has the same restriction. You can apply REA to Georgetown and to other EA, but not other REA. You cannot apply REA to both Georgetown and ND.

LOL you are really ignorant. Georgetown doesn't even have REA.

Some schools' REA programs do not allow students to apply to other REA programs. ND is not one of those. The only restriction is that students may not apply to binding Early Decision I programs. They CAN apply to ED II programs with REA because their decisions will be announced before those EDII applications are due.

This is correct. I will add that the confused poster must think Georgetown's SCEA is REA. It is NOT REA because it is SCEA. Restrictions include not applying to other EA programs.

From the GT website: Single-Choice Early Action restricts applicants from applying to any other school’s Early programs; however, these applicants may apply to other schools under the Regular Decision program. Applicants admitted in December under Single-Choice Early Action have until May 1 to decide whether to attend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before applying early action, you really should visit both. Notre Dame is a very unique environment. When we were looking at colleges, ND had the nicest, friendliest kids. But compared to other schools, it's not particularly diverse. It is fairly isolated in South Bend, which is not a wonderful town. But the campus is beautiful. Both humanities and the Mendoza business school are outstanding. Chicago is not too far away. Notre Dame is very much a big name school in the Midwest. Football and sports generally are a big part of the Notre Dame experience. The school inspires an almost cultish devotion. Its alumni network is among the best in the country. But you have to visit. You either feel it or you don't.

Over the past 15-20 years, I'd say Notre Dame has been on the ascendent compared to Georgetown. From a rankings and opportunities point of view, they're comparable schools, particularly for business or humanities. But the Notre Dame endowment dwarfs what GT has. GT has really struggled financially. Its basketball team is nothing these days. Not much school spirit. Its facilities are run down. Not a lot of alumni seem to donate. But it's in DC, which is very different than South Bend. Besides the Catholic thing, they seem like very different schools.

First of all, it would make more sense to call it GU, not GT (that would be more like Georgia Tech). GU has not "really struggled financially." It's true, their sincere commitment to Jesuit traditions precludes it from investing in over the topness. Notre Dame could take a lesson. The campaign just launching focuses on raising capital to invest in making the world a better place, not a state of the art swimming pool. Would my gym-loving, bro business school son there love a better gym? Maybe. But he really loves the scrappy culture of it all at Georgetown. I just think people leave there feeling proud they are at a place that lives its Jesuit traditions, to give back and do good. I don't know, because I haven't experienced it and only know how badly some current kids there rub me, but I just don't get the sense that ND people have that same attitude.

I was really turned off by Georgetown putting out a big press release about giving millions to descendants of the people they enslaved when in fact the Society of Jesus donated the bulk of that money. But carry on with the doing good and giving back I guess.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown really favors the rich in admissions. They have a decent FA program for people making no money and no assets. As a result they have white/international rich kids and URM poor kids. Barbell as someone said, divided by race. It's a policy straight out of 1985. Anti-woke ND is a lot more progressive in this regard.

[Anonymous]

DCUM loves BC and hates ND. I get that the alumni can be OTT, but ND is probably a better education, a better student experience (both good), more diverse (as far as these schools go), better FA and merit, and kids have better outcomes.

Also guys really make lifelong friends at ND. Not sure why, but there it is.

Also ND always sounds like the dream school for the kids who attend. Like HYP. Georgetown and BC always seem like a, "we're happy with how things turned out" kinda thing. There's for sure an ivy reject letter in their portal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW

Notre Dame's campus culture is more like Boston College than Georgetown.

Georgetown's campus culture is more similar to Duke, Northwestern, & UPenn than it is to Notre Dame. (But the academics are better at Duke, Northwestern, & Penn.)

Agree on GT, but not ND. There are more similarities between ND and BC than ND and GT, but ND is unique among all the schools you mention because it's in more remote location nowhere near a major metropolitan area.

Also, ND attracts a huge percentage of midwestern students from Indiana, Ohio, southern Illinois, Kentucky, etc. Way more than any of the other schools you mention, including Northwestern. That could be a major factor for a kid coming from the DMV.

According to College Factual, Notre Dame ranks 18th out of more than 2100 schools and scores 99 out of 100 for geographical diversity. Only 1/4 of a typical entering class is from all of Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky combined.

There are more kids from Washington state than Kentucky, more from New Jersey than Indiana, and as many from Texas as Ohio. While the most represented state is Illinois, it’s because of Chicago - not Southern Illinois - and the second and third most represented states are California and New York.

[Anonymous]

ND has far more geographic and economic diversity than Georgetown

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before applying early action, you really should visit both. Notre Dame is a very unique environment. When we were looking at colleges, ND had the nicest, friendliest kids. But compared to other schools, it's not particularly diverse. It is fairly isolated in South Bend, which is not a wonderful town. But the campus is beautiful. Both humanities and the Mendoza business school are outstanding. Chicago is not too far away. Notre Dame is very much a big name school in the Midwest. Football and sports generally are a big part of the Notre Dame experience. The school inspires an almost cultish devotion. Its alumni network is among the best in the country. But you have to visit. You either feel it or you don't.

Over the past 15-20 years, I'd say Notre Dame has been on the ascendent compared to Georgetown. From a rankings and opportunities point of view, they're comparable schools, particularly for business or humanities. But the Notre Dame endowment dwarfs what GT has. GT has really struggled financially. Its basketball team is nothing these days. Not much school spirit. Its facilities are run down. Not a lot of alumni seem to donate. But it's in DC, which is very different than South Bend. Besides the Catholic thing, they seem like very different schools.

First of all, it would make more sense to call it GU, not GT (that would be more like Georgia Tech). GU has not "really struggled financially." It's true, their sincere commitment to Jesuit traditions precludes it from investing in over the topness. Notre Dame could take a lesson. The campaign just launching focuses on raising capital to invest in making the world a better place, not a state of the art swimming pool. Would my gym-loving, bro business school son there love a better gym? Maybe. But he really loves the scrappy culture of it all at Georgetown. I just think people leave there feeling proud they are at a place that lives its Jesuit traditions, to give back and do good. I don't know, because I haven't experienced it and only know how badly some current kids there rub me, but I just don't get the sense that ND people have that same attitude.[/quote
You cannot be serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before applying early action, you really should visit both. Notre Dame is a very unique environment. When we were looking at colleges, ND had the nicest, friendliest kids. But compared to other schools, it's not particularly diverse. It is fairly isolated in South Bend, which is not a wonderful town. But the campus is beautiful. Both humanities and the Mendoza business school are outstanding. Chicago is not too far away. Notre Dame is very much a big name school in the Midwest. Football and sports generally are a big part of the Notre Dame experience. The school inspires an almost cultish devotion. Its alumni network is among the best in the country. But you have to visit. You either feel it or you don't.

Over the past 15-20 years, I'd say Notre Dame has been on the ascendent compared to Georgetown. From a rankings and opportunities point of view, they're comparable schools, particularly for business or humanities. But the Notre Dame endowment dwarfs what GT has. GT has really struggled financially. Its basketball team is nothing these days. Not much school spirit. Its facilities are run down. Not a lot of alumni seem to donate. But it's in DC, which is very different than South Bend. Besides the Catholic thing, they seem like very different schools.

First of all, it would make more sense to call it GU, not GT (that would be more like Georgia Tech). GU has not "really struggled financially." It's true, their sincere commitment to Jesuit traditions precludes it from investing in over the topness. Notre Dame could take a lesson. The campaign just launching focuses on raising capital to invest in making the world a better place, not a state of the art swimming pool. Would my gym-loving, bro business school son there love a better gym? Maybe. But he really loves the scrappy culture of it all at Georgetown. I just think people leave there feeling proud they are at a place that lives its Jesuit traditions, to give back and do good. I don't know, because I haven't experienced it and only know how badly some current kids there rub me, but I just don't get the sense that ND people have that same attitude.

Georgetown is the only school I know that really really loves the son of a prince or shah even from the most dubious countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

100%. You can only REA to one

This is wrong, and an example of why you should not seek advice on this forum.

NP. It’s not wrong. The “R” in REA stands for “restricted.” The restriction is that if you apply REA to a school, you cannot apply early (REA/SCEA/EA/ED) to another private university.[/quote
This is straight from Notre Dame's website. Again, an example of why you should not seek advice from this forum and go directly to the source. https://admissions.nd.edu/apply/early-action-regular-decision/

Restrictive Early Action: November 1
Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.
It is expected that should you apply to an Early Decision 2 program and be admitted to that school you would immediately withdraw your application to Notre Dame as this is a binding agreement to that other institution.
If you are applying to another school's Single Choice admission plan, please reach out to that institution regarding any restrictions.
Students do not indicate a first-choice preference by applying early and still may wait until May 1 to indicate their decision to attend.
On rare occasions, students will request to move their Regular Decision application to Restrictive Early Action. If you have submitted your Regular Decision application by the Restrictive Early Action deadline of November 1, you may make this request through your applicant status portal no later than November 15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t you apply REA to both? Although if the college office at Prep (I assume) is telling you to pick one, listen to them.

DP. Different school. NO! With restrictive early action, it only allows you to apply EA to PUBLIC universities. You cannot EA at another private university.

NP. NO! With restrictive early action, at least at ND, you can apply EA to any university you want, public or private. Not ED or any other binding program, but EA is totally fine. Straight from ND's website:Restrictive Early Action: November 1
Notre Dame has a non-binding Restrictive Early Action program.

A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may apply to other Early Action programs at either private or public colleges or universities.
A student applying Restrictive Early Action to Notre Dame may not apply to any college or university (private or public) in their binding Early Decision 1 program.
If you apply to Notre Dame through REA, you may apply to any Early Decision 2 program as this has a deadline post our REA decision release in mid-December.
It is expected that should you apply to an Early Decision 2 program and be admitted to that school you would immediately withdraw your application to Notre Dame as this is a binding agreement to that other institution.
If you are applying to another school's Single Choice admission plan, please reach out to that institution regarding any restrictions.
Students do not indicate a first-choice preference by applying early and still may wait until May 1 to indicate their decision to attend.
On rare occasions, students will request to move their Regular Decision application to Restrictive Early Action. If you have submitted your Regular Decision application by the Restrictive Early Action deadline of November 1, you may make this request through your applicant status portal no later than November 15.

[Anonymous]

Fascinating the misinformation being shared about ND admissions on this thread. Go to the ND website and learn that the only restriction associated with REA has to do with only Early Decision. A student can apply REA anywhere else. People are confusing REA with SCEA.

[Anonymous]

I live in the Midwest and have SEVERAL ND friends, and casually know a few Georgetown people through work.

I'd say both are awesome and extremely expensive and kinda similar. Pick the one where he wants to live after college. If he wants to settle on the East Coast, pick Georgetown. If he wants to settle in the Midwest, pick Notre Dame. Both have super strong networks, but best most advantageous in their own regions