So frustrated- MCPS Sports

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Anonymous wrote:My DD’s coaches are over the top. They scream about everything and make the team a miserable experience. But my DD smiles and goes on.

Tonight is Rosh Hashanah- one of the most important holidays on the Jewish calendar. We observe and celebrate with our family in Baltimore. When my DD explained to them that she needed to leave practice an hour early, they said it was okay, but that “there would have to be consequences.” She has to Zelig out a game! For a religious holiday!

When I followed up they said that she can observe the holiday but that it doesn’t start until sunset and that she could practice until then.

She’s taking the consequence and sitting out a game, but I furious! What would you all do?

Your furious that your DD will miss one sports game during her childhood tbc of a religious holiday?

You said this was your most important holiday but somehow in your mind this game equals it’s importance bc you are upset your kid will miss. you need to reframe your thinking on it.

Look I grew up with devout Catholic parents and there was never a question or upset by them that I missed a practice or a game if it conflicted with church and holy days.

This isn't like being Catholic at all nor comparable. Grow up and show some respect for other religions.

You say as you disparage Catholics...

Catholic Churches are run very differently than Jewish Services. But, you clearly don't get that.

That doesn't mean Jewish people should get special exceptions and privileges not offered to other religions. But, you clearly don't get that.

Christians get full privilege by the school system giving days off their holidays. Jews don't get that so they have to miss school or work. This is an important holiday. What this coach did was completely unacceptable.

There are many Christian holidays that do not get the day off of school.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD’s coaches are over the top. They scream about everything and make the team a miserable experience. But my DD smiles and goes on.

Tonight is Rosh Hashanah- one of the most important holidays on the Jewish calendar. We observe and celebrate with our family in Baltimore. When my DD explained to them that she needed to leave practice an hour early, they said it was okay, but that “there would have to be consequences.” She has to Zelig out a game! For a religious holiday!

When I followed up they said that she can observe the holiday but that it doesn’t start until sunset and that she could practice until then.

She’s taking the consequence and sitting out a game, but I furious! What would you all do?

Your furious that your DD will miss one sports game during her childhood tbc of a religious holiday?

You said this was your most important holiday but somehow in your mind this game equals it’s importance bc you are upset your kid will miss. you need to reframe your thinking on it.

Look I grew up with devout Catholic parents and there was never a question or upset by them that I missed a practice or a game if it conflicted with church and holy days.

This isn't like being Catholic at all nor comparable. Grow up and show some respect for other religions.

You say as you disparage Catholics...

Catholic Churches are run very differently than Jewish Services. But, you clearly don't get that.

That doesn't mean Jewish people should get special exceptions and privileges not offered to other religions. But, you clearly don't get that.

Christians get full privilege by the school system giving days off their holidays. Jews don't get that so they have to miss school or work. This is an important holiday. What this coach did was completely unacceptable.

There are many Christian holidays that do not get the day off of school.

And MCPS's policy would allow taking them off without consequence, too.

[Anonymous]

I can’t imagine how sad and empty this coach’s life is to make them the kind of person that wants to penalize a child for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine how sad and empty this coach’s life is to make them the kind of person that wants to penalize a child for this.

We are only reading one side of the story here.

[Anonymous]

What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

Pick and choose your battles carefully. This coach sounds like a bully and someone who likes to assert his/her power over children. If you complain, the AD will most likely circle the MCPS wagons to protect the coach he/she hired. MCPS has a tendency to protect their own. You complain, the coach could come up with an excuse to bench her for the remainder of the season.

[Anonymous]

Such is the corporate culture in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

The parents get the schedule in Aug.

Also, if a parent oversleeps and a student is tardy can they tell the office that to get their tardies excused?

Give me a break

I guarantee this player just told the coach the day before, but told the mom she said it a week before.

Player sits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

The parents get the schedule in Aug.

Also, if a parent oversleeps and a student is tardy can they tell the office that to get their tardies excused?

Give me a break

I guarantee this player just told the coach the day before, but told the mom she said it a week before.

Player sits

This isn’t oversleeping. This is a major religious holiday. It does not matter if it was the day of, it should be excused. It is not appropriate for child to attend practice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

The parents get the schedule in Aug.

Also, if a parent oversleeps and a student is tardy can they tell the office that to get their tardies excused?

Give me a break

I guarantee this player just told the coach the day before, but told the mom she said it a week before.

Player sits

This isn’t oversleeping. This is a major religious holiday. It does not matter if it was the day of, it should be excused. It is not appropriate for child to attend practice.

THE HOLIDAY STARTS AT SUNDOWN

PRACTICE WAS AFTER SCHOOL

[Anonymous]

Isn’t this kind of ridiculous? It’s one day (not even a full practice) and she should be permitted to observe a religious holiday.
Isn’t she allowed to miss school for a religious holiday? Why not practice??

I’m not sure how anyone could spin this to make it seem like she did something wrong.

I’d definitely say something but I’d start off politely reminding them about the holiday and hope admin knows this was a big deal. I’m sure your daughter doesn’t want it escalated but if you don’t get a good response, I’d do just that.,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

That’s pretty normal. Last year I planned a trip over winter break. My kid had nothing to do with the plan. Had my kid gone, my kid would have been out for the rest of the season. I cancelled the trip - sports was more important than a trip.

As a MCPS sports parent, I feel for OP and her daughter. Sports comes first. The coach accommodated the holiday but not the travel. That’s pretty typical. And the consequences were really minimal for OP’s kid.

[Anonymous]

The sad truth is that people have wide latitude to be aholes and there's little you can do that makes it worth the effort. Especially true for petty tyrants who drive their self worth from exploiting a little bit of power like being a local sport coach or a police officer


I hope this experience inspired DD to seek positions of power to protect other people in future. Too often good-hearted people drop out of the system because it's so distasteful.

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

That’s pretty normal. Last year I planned a trip over winter break. My kid had nothing to do with the plan. Had my kid gone, my kid would have been out for the rest of the season. I cancelled the trip - sports was more important than a trip.

As a MCPS sports parent, I feel for OP and her daughter. Sports comes first. The coach accommodated the holiday but not the travel. That’s pretty typical. And the consequences were really minimal for OP’s kid.

A few responses back a former MCPS coach said that this coach's behavior is unacceptable and the AD would not be happy to hear of it. And to the person who posted that sports are more important, I believe they call high school sports extracurricular. No child should have to choose between observing a religious holiday (which in this case requires travel to different city to attend services with their family) and having the opportunity to play their sport without repercussions. It's not like the parents said, "hey, we've decided to head out of town for a last minute ski trip"-deal.

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Anonymous wrote:What I think is most annoying and unfair is that the coach is punishing the player for something that he knows is beyond her control. Her parents have decided she has to leave at a certain time. That is not the fault of the student.

While I think the coach should also relax his rule regarding absences for religious reasons, I do t have as much of a problem with him not doing so if he is consistent. If he would make his star player sit out a game under similar circumstances, then I am ok with his decision. I don’t agree with his approach, but I am ok with it.

Sometimes being observant of your faith requires you to put a faith related obligation before a non-faith obligation.

If PP brings it to the attention of the school, I guarantee they will reverse the coach.

The parents get the schedule in Aug.

Also, if a parent oversleeps and a student is tardy can they tell the office that to get their tardies excused?

Give me a break

I guarantee this player just told the coach the day before, but told the mom she said it a week before.

Player sits

This isn’t oversleeping. This is a major religious holiday. It does not matter if it was the day of, it should be excused. It is not appropriate for child to attend practice.

It DOES matter if it was the day of. It is not appropriate for the player to not communicate with the coach that there was a conflict as soon as possible.