So frustrated- MCPS Sports

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Necessary detail is missing here. What time does the practice end?

Way before sundown.

The OP just didn’t liked that it messed with her socializing plans of the night. Has nothing to do with religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I requested 1 hour early, not to miss completely. She gave them a week’s notice, but they only came to their decision last night.

1 weeks notice isn't near enough. The holiday observation should have been flagged as a conflict day 1.

+1 yep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I requested 1 hour early, not to miss completely. She gave them a week’s notice, but they only came to their decision last night.

1 weeks notice isn't near enough. The holiday observation should have been flagged as a conflict day 1.

+1 yep

-1

Rosh Hashanah has been on the calendar forever and officially on the MC PS calendar since last year. Coaches and teacher should know that it will be a conflict for students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: I requested 1 hour early, not to miss completely. She gave them a week’s notice, but they only came to their decision last night.

1 weeks notice isn't near enough. The holiday observation should have been flagged as a conflict day 1.

+1 yep

-1

Rosh Hashanah has been on the calendar forever and officially on the MC PS calendar since last year. Coaches and teacher should know that it will be a conflict for students.

OP never answered what time practice ended. If practice ended before a certain time, it wouldn't have been a conflict for the athlete to observe. It might have ended too late for an athlete to drive 1-2 hours away, and then observe. But the coach shouldn't have to accommodate those types of preferences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but today was a school day and mandatory practices after school during daylight hours is completely appropriate.

You wanted there to be no practice so you can go to Baltimore during rush hour for a family event. And since you didn’t get that and your DC only said something a week ago, that is a conflict that goes against the mandatory practices and she loses some playing time.

If you make something more out of it, she will lose more time. You or your DC should have been on notice of this in early Aug. I bet there were other Jewish kids who finished practice and still were at home for services in plenty of time. Going to Baltimore is extra.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

Practice schedules were given out in mid Aug

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but today was a school day and mandatory practices after school during daylight hours is completely appropriate.

You wanted there to be no practice so you can go to Baltimore during rush hour for a family event. And since you didn’t get that and your DC only said something a week ago, that is a conflict that goes against the mandatory practices and she loses some playing time.

If you make something more out of it, she will lose more time. You or your DC should have been on notice of this in early Aug. I bet there were other Jewish kids who finished practice and still were at home for services in plenty of time. Going to Baltimore is extra.

I agree. It's a choice.

[Anonymous]

MCPS has a solid religious accommodations policy (this one from 22-23):
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/students/rights/0854.22_religiousdiversityguidelines_8.5x11_web.pdf

It sounds like MCPS would not approve of a coach penalizing an athlete for observing a religious holiday.

[Anonymous]

Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

So you are saying that no, it is not required to observe this holiday in the city of Baltimore? Lack of availability "last minute" is also not the coach's responsiblity to accommodate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has a solid religious accommodations policy (this one from 22-23):
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/students/rights/0854.22_religiousdiversityguidelines_8.5x11_web.pdf

It sounds like MCPS would not approve of a coach penalizing an athlete for observing a religious holiday.

He's not penalizing an athlete for observing. He's penalizing the athlete for taking time off practice to unnecessarily travel to observe.