So frustrated- MCPS Sports

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

Isn't that all the more reason not to travel to Baltimore? Funny how I've never asked for accommodation for my religion but you are bringing it up as if I have.

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

Isn't that all the more reason not to travel to Baltimore? Funny how I've never asked for accommodation for my religion but you are bringing it up as if I have.

No, they may be going with family or others. Do you not understand what this holiday is?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has a solid religious accommodations policy (this one from 22-23):
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/students/rights/0854.22_religiousdiversityguidelines_8.5x11_web.pdf

It sounds like MCPS would not approve of a coach penalizing an athlete for observing a religious holiday.

He's not penalizing an athlete for observing. He's penalizing the athlete for taking time off practice to unnecessarily travel to observe.

Oh my….

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

Isn't that all the more reason not to travel to Baltimore? Funny how I've never asked for accommodation for my religion but you are bringing it up as if I have.

No, they may be going with family or others. Do you not understand what this holiday is?

Going with family or others is a choice, not a requirement.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

So you are saying that no, it is not required to observe this holiday in the city of Baltimore? Lack of availability "last minute" is also not the coach's responsiblity to accommodate.

I am saying that if she were to make alternate arrangements to observe locally due to the coach’s last minute response, that it might no longer be possible. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

Isn't that all the more reason not to travel to Baltimore? Funny how I've never asked for accommodation for my religion but you are bringing it up as if I have.

No, they may be going with family or others. Do you not understand what this holiday is?

Going with family or others is a choice, not a requirement.

Neither you nor the coach gets to select where OP’s place of worship is located. Baltimore is not far away. Far northern parts of MoCo are similar distances from some of us to some of the Baltimore suburbs.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

So you are saying that no, it is not required to observe this holiday in the city of Baltimore? Lack of availability "last minute" is also not the coach's responsiblity to accommodate.

I am saying that if she were to make alternate arrangements to observe locally due to the coach’s last minute response, that it might no longer be possible. Try to keep up.

I am caught up, it appears that you are the one who can not comprehend.
What I am saying is that if she already knew the schedule in August, she should have made arrangements based on what she already KNEW was necessary, not based on what she wanted the coach to accommodate.
"Practice ends at X time, and I need to attend services shortly after that. Should I make arrangements for the service close by that I know my daughter can still attend practice and attend the service? Or should I make arrangements for services very far away, and hope the coach treats my daughter more special than everyone else? Yes! That's what I'll do!"

[Anonymous]

I'm a former MCPS coach, and my athletic director would've been furious with me if I acted like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Depending on how religious they are, they cannot drive so they need to get there prior to the holiday starting. Funny how if it’s your religion you’d want accommodation but you cannot have any empathy to another religion on an extremely important day.

Isn't that all the more reason not to travel to Baltimore? Funny how I've never asked for accommodation for my religion but you are bringing it up as if I have.

No, they may be going with family or others. Do you not understand what this holiday is?

Going with family or others is a choice, not a requirement.

Your ignorance is showing.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

So you are saying that no, it is not required to observe this holiday in the city of Baltimore? Lack of availability "last minute" is also not the coach's responsiblity to accommodate.

I am saying that if she were to make alternate arrangements to observe locally due to the coach’s last minute response, that it might no longer be possible. Try to keep up.

I am caught up, it appears that you are the one who can not comprehend.
What I am saying is that if she already knew the schedule in August, she should have made arrangements based on what she already KNEW was necessary, not based on what she wanted the coach to accommodate.
"Practice ends at X time, and I need to attend services shortly after that. Should I make arrangements for the service close by that I know my daughter can still attend practice and attend the service? Or should I make arrangements for services very far away, and hope the coach treats my daughter more special than everyone else? Yes! That's what I'll do!"

Your ignorance is showing. This isn't like a church where anyone can attend. You have to be members and get tickets.

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I am sorry but the expectation there should be no practice today so you can drive in rush hour traffic to Baltimore to attend services? Nahhh come on. This is over the top.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but the expectation there should be no practice today so you can drive in rush hour traffic to Baltimore to attend services? Nahhh come on. This is over the top.

There can be practice but Jewish athletes should be excused give what holiday this is.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but the expectation there should be no practice today so you can drive in rush hour traffic to Baltimore to attend services? Nahhh come on. This is over the top.

There can be practice but Jewish athletes should be excused give what holiday this is.

Today was a full school day. You get tomorrow off. The holiday starts at sundown. All practices were done well ahead of time. And the OP’s child knew this schedule in Aug and still didn’t talk to the coach until this week? Come on.

I have had to have practices on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, games Palm Sunday and go to lacrosse tournaments easter weekend.

You make a choice. You can’t complain about what happens after that choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you step between the lines on that field you live by the coach’s rules. I remember having to practice on Good Friday to be allowed to play Holy Saturday.

The coach isn’t demanding your daughter practice during the holiday. He’s asking you to choose between a family event and the team. If you choose the family event, a kid who chose the team gets your daughter’s playing time. It’s that simple and it’s the only fair way to do it.

Playing competitive sports means you have to sacrifice family and social events for the team. The coach isn’t forcing you or your daughter to miss the holiday. Celebrate it closer to home and the problem is solved.

A religious holiday is not a family event. It’s not like it’s a party.

The player does not need to miss the religious event. The player can participate in the religious event here. The player can’t go to the family event in Baltimore.

This is not a family event. It’s a very religious holiday.

Does the religion require it be observed in the city of Baltimore?

It might. Many families attend synagogues with all family members/generations. Particularly in Baltimore, OP’s family might be attending services with extended family. Tickets to high holiday services are not open to the general public and you need to have purchased them in advance to attend. So she may not even be able to attend her local synagogue at the last minute if she purchased seats for services with her family in Baltimore.

So you are saying that no, it is not required to observe this holiday in the city of Baltimore? Lack of availability "last minute" is also not the coach's responsiblity to accommodate.

I am saying that if she were to make alternate arrangements to observe locally due to the coach’s last minute response, that it might no longer be possible. Try to keep up.

I am caught up, it appears that you are the one who can not comprehend.
What I am saying is that if she already knew the schedule in August, she should have made arrangements based on what she already KNEW was necessary, not based on what she wanted the coach to accommodate.
"Practice ends at X time, and I need to attend services shortly after that. Should I make arrangements for the service close by that I know my daughter can still attend practice and attend the service? Or should I make arrangements for services very far away, and hope the coach treats my daughter more special than everyone else? Yes! That's what I'll do!"

That’s not how this works.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but the expectation there should be no practice today so you can drive in rush hour traffic to Baltimore to attend services? Nahhh come on. This is over the top.

There can be practice but Jewish athletes should be excused give what holiday this is.

Today was a full school day. You get tomorrow off. The holiday starts at sundown. All practices were done well ahead of time. And the OP’s child knew this schedule in Aug and still didn’t talk to the coach until this week? Come on.

I have had to have practices on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, games Palm Sunday and go to lacrosse tournaments easter weekend.

You make a choice. You can’t complain about what happens after that choice.

You don’t get what this holiday is. You choose to go to practices. You don’t need to discuss it in advanced.