Notre Dame reaffirms University’s commitment to legacy admissions after Supreme Court ruling

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Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Can you point me to the part of the constitution that deals with non-legacy students being a protected class?

YOu have to look not at just the individual but on the impact across certain segments. Even if they are not culling out based on race or whatever, "legacy" can be a proxy that has no legitimate relationship to merit AND tends to screen out a certain demographic. That's illegal.

I'm rolling eyes. You're making up arguments that have no legal standing.

You're the idiot here. Google "disparate impact" and learn something.

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

Both can be true.

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Wow. Let’s breathe here folks. The plurality of Notre Dame students are from the Midwest, that should not shock anyone.

ND plans to continue to use legacy as a factor in admissions, again no shock here. Also, not against the law to do so.

If these things upset you don’t apply. If these things help you, so be it.

If you as an alum, want ND to stop considering legacy admissions let the administration know, stop donating, do what makes you feel good.

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Notre Dame says it wants to become a great research research university. That takes a lot of $$$, much of it from the federal government. Good luck with that!

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

They want to admit Catholics of all different backgrounds! Surprising and concerning that a (checks notes) Catholic university would do this.

No they don't. ND is only 3.4% African american!

Thats is about the same rate as UC Berkeley

PFFT! Aren't you cute!!!! You cite to Berkeley's stats for black students (4.4%), but ignore the fact that Berkeley is a leader in admitting students of color (and also reflective of the state): "UC Berkeley has long been a leader in promoting diversity and inclusion on campus. With an undergraduate enrollment of 30,402 students, 53% identifying as female and 47% as male, UC Berkeley ranked 8th for the Best College for Ethnic Diversity according to US News in 2021. The university’s undergraduate population is made up of 42.2% Asian, 19.7% White, 4.4% Black, and 21% Hispanic students as of 2020.:

And what are ND's Asian stats? 6% and ND's Hispanic stats? 12%. The simple fact is that ND doesn't attract students of color becauase they don't want to attend there.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame says it wants to become a great research research university. That takes a lot of $$$, much of it from the federal government. Good luck with that!

Notre Dame just joined the AAU, which basically means it already IS a “great research university.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Catholic schools and organizations are VERY well protected with the current SCOTUS. They can do whatever TF they want to do.

Notre Dame has protection from the highest authority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Catholic schools and organizations are VERY well protected with the current SCOTUS. They can do whatever TF they want to do.

Notre Dame has protection from the highest authority.

You think Jesus will protect a Catholic institution that caters to wealthy white people? You must be the kind of Catholic who has a picture of a blonde blue eyed Jesus on your wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Can you point me to the part of the constitution that deals with non-legacy students being a protected class?

YOu have to look not at just the individual but on the impact across certain segments. Even if they are not culling out based on race or whatever, "legacy" can be a proxy that has no legitimate relationship to merit AND tends to screen out a certain demographic. That's illegal.

Look up "diparate impact"

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/disparate_impact#:~:text=Primary%20tabs,refers%20to%20intentional%20discriminatory%20practice.

Unless Brennan is going to rise from the dead, good luck with that arguments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Catholic schools and organizations are VERY well protected with the current SCOTUS. They can do whatever TF they want to do.

Notre Dame has protection from the highest authority.

You think Jesus will protect a Catholic institution that caters to wealthy white people? You must be the kind of Catholic who has a picture of a blonde blue eyed Jesus on your wall.

Tell us more about how you know nothing about the current Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Catholic schools and organizations are VERY well protected with the current SCOTUS. They can do whatever TF they want to do.

Notre Dame has protection from the highest authority.

You think Jesus will protect a Catholic institution that caters to wealthy white people? You must be the kind of Catholic who has a picture of a blonde blue eyed Jesus on your wall.

Tell us more about how you know nothing about the current Supreme Court.

People thinking that conservative justices are going to embrace disparate impact theory probably haven't spent much time studying judicial theories. If anyone is curious as to how conservative legal philosophy actually views disparate impact:

https://fedsoc.org/search?term=disparate+impact

[Anonymous]

This website is infested with protofascist right wing lawyers. My god.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This website is infested with protofascist right wing lawyers. My god.

Or lawyers who actually understand practicalities and current Constitutional law. Oh wait, you think they are “protofascist right wingers” because you get the few thoughts in your head from Twitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Catholic schools and organizations are VERY well protected with the current SCOTUS. They can do whatever TF they want to do.

Notre Dame has protection from the highest authority.

You think Jesus will protect a Catholic institution that caters to wealthy white people? You must be the kind of Catholic who has a picture of a blonde blue eyed Jesus on your wall.

Tell us more about how you know nothing about the current Supreme Court.

Are you saying SCOTUS is a higher power than Jesus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This website is infested with protofascist right wing lawyers. My god.

“Fascism” now is any college that caters to Catholics and that DCUM considers “too white” 🙄🙄🙄