UMD vs U Michigan CS major

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Four year cost for UMD is $217K and U Michigan is $296K. Apart from ~$80K cost differential, the CS program in Michigan may be slightly better.
But employment outcomes post graduation may not be so much different.

I look at it differently. I would never pay $217K to attend UMD OOS for any undergraduate major. If I were to pay that much to attend an OOS school, I would much more consider paying $296K for Michigan.

Why? For CS Maryland is higher ranked in some polls. Is it because Michigan feels more brag-worthy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMD and use the extra to pay for graduate school. UMD is an excellent school.

Put the extra money in retirement fund

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Four year cost for UMD is $217K and U Michigan is $296K. Apart from ~$80K cost differential, the CS program in Michigan may be slightly better.
But employment outcomes post graduation may not be so much different.

I look at it differently. I would never pay $217K to attend UMD OOS for any undergraduate major. If I were to pay that much to attend an OOS school, I would much more consider paying $296K for Michigan.

Why? For CS Maryland is higher ranked in some polls. Is it because Michigan feels more brag-worthy?

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Uhhh, yeah!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UMD and use the extra to pay for graduate school. UMD is an excellent school.

Put the extra money in retirement fund

Except, what if the student decided to switch majors, which is very common? Still think that high OOS cost for UMD is worth it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Four year cost for UMD is $217K and U Michigan is $296K. Apart from ~$80K cost differential, the CS program in Michigan may be slightly better.
But employment outcomes post graduation may not be so much different.

I look at it differently. I would never pay $217K to attend UMD OOS for any undergraduate major. If I were to pay that much to attend an OOS school, I would much more consider paying $296K for Michigan.

I agree. There is no way I’d pay that kind of money to get a degree from Maryland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Umich, is it CS Major in COE or LSA? Both takes the similar classes with LSA has 2 year of language requirements and COE has physics, chem, and multi variables and differential eq. 128 credits needed for COE graduation and 120 for LSA. Very tough CS program. EECS280 (first real CS class) has 1450 kids. Long waiting for help in office hour. 25% will drop/fail the class or take Pass/Fail. The next class EECS 281 is another killer class. If your child has lot of programming experience, it will be good in Umich, otherwise it can easily suck in the weeder classes.

It is true, these are tough weeder classes, but kids do get A's in them and move forward through the Major or as a minor.

Not the immediate pp, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Very few kids getting A's in those classes, and if they do they are spending lots and lots of time and energy to pass. Kids routinely fail UM math classes, and are excited if they get a C+ based on the curve. There is real thing about Michigan Math, which people despise and there was a recent article in the Michigan Daily about how to improve math. FB parents complain about it all the time. Kids are routinely suffering through math, CS, econ classes that are required. The idea that it's easy to get an A is misleading at best, laughable at worst.

Per a Reddit user who got a FOIA males in CS are graduating with GPAs just over 3.0.

I am the poster you are responding to. Kids can get A's in the classes...my kid is one of them and CS is a minor for them. Please don't tell me I don't know what I am posting about.

19:27 said it better than I did and it is possible if not probable our kids might know each other.

Highly probable. I was in Michigan engineering and there were exactly 5 people in the program with any social skills whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

Let's skip the first sentence for a second and go straight to the second. UMD has NOT won more NCAA football championships! And Michigan is also currently ranked #! in the nation right now. Michigan is cold, but less dark than here because it is on the very western edge of the eastern time zone. It actually gets dark later there than here in the winter. The sunset today in College Park was 4:45 p.m. but it was 5:03 p.m. in Ann Arbor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Umich, is it CS Major in COE or LSA? Both takes the similar classes with LSA has 2 year of language requirements and COE has physics, chem, and multi variables and differential eq. 128 credits needed for COE graduation and 120 for LSA. Very tough CS program. EECS280 (first real CS class) has 1450 kids. Long waiting for help in office hour. 25% will drop/fail the class or take Pass/Fail. The next class EECS 281 is another killer class. If your child has lot of programming experience, it will be good in Umich, otherwise it can easily suck in the weeder classes.

It is true, these are tough weeder classes, but kids do get A's in them and move forward through the Major or as a minor.

Not the immediate pp, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Very few kids getting A's in those classes, and if they do they are spending lots and lots of time and energy to pass. Kids routinely fail UM math classes, and are excited if they get a C+ based on the curve. There is real thing about Michigan Math, which people despise and there was a recent article in the Michigan Daily about how to improve math. FB parents complain about it all the time. Kids are routinely suffering through math, CS, econ classes that are required. The idea that it's easy to get an A is misleading at best, laughable at worst.

Per a Reddit user who got a FOIA males in CS are graduating with GPAs just over 3.0.

I am the poster you are responding to. Kids can get A's in the classes...my kid is one of them and CS is a minor for them. Please don't tell me I don't know what I am posting about.

19:27 said it better than I did and it is possible if not probable our kids might know each other.

Highly probable. I was in Michigan engineering and there were exactly 5 people in the program with any social skills whatsoever.

Let me guess, you were one of the five.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

That’s nice. In the meantime, Michigan >>>UMD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:csrankings.org has UM at #5 and UMDCP #11. Both are solid programs neither has the prestige of MIT, so it comes down to which school you like better otherwise, just splitting hairs

True but it's also the reverse for specializations like AI. UMD is top 5 for that according to the same site. Bottom line is both are fine schools but if you wanted to pursue a career in ML you'd be better off at Maryland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

That’s nice. In the meantime, Michigan >>>UMD

UMD inside the beltway of the Worlds most powerful city. The academic community in a 15 mile radius is Georgetown, UMD, Hopkins and Navy Annapolis. Michigan academic year is in low power academic community, cold, dark, suicidal Ann Arbor that you must leave after graduation for a financial future and mental health. There is nothing to do that’s why a football team with fewer modern ncaa era national championships than UMD sells out with desperately bored entities with nothing else to do. UMD with more modern nattys has a much more stimulating and wealthy region.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

That’s nice. In the meantime, Michigan >>>UMD

UMD inside the beltway of the Worlds most powerful city. The academic community in a 15 mile radius is Georgetown, UMD, Hopkins and Navy Annapolis. Michigan academic year is in low power academic community, cold, dark, suicidal Ann Arbor that you must leave after graduation for a financial future and mental health. There is nothing to do that’s why a football team with fewer modern ncaa era national championships than UMD sells out with desperately bored entities with nothing else to do. UMD with more modern nattys has a much more stimulating and wealthy region.

Triggered much? I made a mistake earlier. Michigan>>>>>UMD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is too cold dark and suicidal . Plus UMD has more ncaa era football national championships

That’s nice. In the meantime, Michigan >>>UMD

UMD inside the beltway of the Worlds most powerful city. The academic community in a 15 mile radius is Georgetown, UMD, Hopkins and Navy Annapolis. Michigan academic year is in low power academic community, cold, dark, suicidal Ann Arbor that you must leave after graduation for a financial future and mental health. There is nothing to do that’s why a football team with fewer modern ncaa era national championships than UMD sells out with desperately bored entities with nothing else to do. UMD with more modern nattys has a much more stimulating and wealthy region.

Triggered much? I made a mistake earlier. Michigan>>>>>UMD.

UMD>>>>>>>Mich. (2 more >’s)

[Anonymous]

“ True but it's also the reverse for specializations like AI. UMD is top 5 for that according to the same site.

At USNWR, Michigan is #12 and ranked above UMD

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/computer-science/artificial-intelligence