DC driver with $12k in tickets flees US Park police, kills 3 people

[Anonymous]

Part of it is that 25 mph is absurd. What I meant was unpaid citations that raise to the level of misdemeanor. Repeated unsafe behavior. The people I have in mind have 20+ and also behave anti socially otherwise

[Anonymous]

Who is the driver? Had he been named? He also almost killed the woman in the car with him.

[Anonymous]

Pay them. I hope the families sue DC, individual Council members and the guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume this individual will be in jail soon charged with vehicular homicide or manslaughter.

Hopefully for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Part of it is that 25 mph is absurd. What I meant was unpaid citations that raise to the level of misdemeanor. Repeated unsafe behavior. The people I have in mind have 20+ and also behave anti socially otherwise

Yes, 25 mph is absurd. It should be no higher than 20 mph.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the impact of lax public safety and everyone trying to highjack it for a pet agenda.

https://dailyvoice.com/virginia/fairfax/news/hearts-break-after-triple-fatal-rideshare-crash-in-dc/859125/

3 decent, hardworking men, with their lives ahead of them, who were supporting families, are now dead. They came to the US to pursue opportunities and contributed in a positive way. They were POC.

The arguments against basic public safety are BS. The Council has disincentivized traffic stops and MoCo is considering banning most.

THIS is the human toll in service of ideology. And use of race and poverty IS BS. Poor, hardworking, good people of color are the primary VICTIMS of the criminals.

This happened on National Park Service road in DC, why are you bringing up Montgomery County?

Because, even as a liberal, i can see that “woke” progressive ideology has translated into policy like this (allowing speeders with $12k speeding tickets not to lose their license and keep driving dangerously). That ideology is becoming adopted on a nation wide scale in order to promote more equitable outcomes. Including in MoCo county. Therefore, it’s not unrelated to mention MoCo.

Again, this car deaths incident clearly shows the issue and that is of how the city council is weighing the potential human toll of car accidents from dangerous drivers keeping their licenses because they city won’t rescind them even with $12k in speeding tickets vs. the disproportionate socioeconomic burden someone from a disadvantaged community may experience if they lost their license.

Simply put, this is a basically cost benefit analysis being weighed by our council members of poor people driving dangerously keeping the ability to drive their cars vs. everyone else having to live with them if they drive dangerously and no matter how dangerously. But sure you can plug your wish for more buses etc. That’s super helpful.

No, you're not. Or maybe you were in, like, 1992. But now it's 2023. Just like if Abraham Lincoln or Dwight Eisenhower or even Ronald Reagan communicated from the Great Beyond to say they were Republicans.

I am not going to qualify a damn thing for you. I support abortion, legalizing drugs, a lot of justice reform efforts, but really some of these measures are just fodder for congress when they have their upcoming hearing with the dc council. That and they can use this in 2024.

It’s not rocket science. If you let someone rack up $12k in speeding tickets without taking their license, booting them, or taking any real proactive measures to prevent them from speeding and crashing then you are an idiot. These criminal justice policies, many of which are done with the good faith effort at promoting equity, are tantamount to unjustified leniency.

$12k in tickets and dude can drive around and smash in to people! GTFO. It’s insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, like police can’t stop you for tags etc? You know what I mean, stop restating the facts and arguing with yourself.

That is exactly one of the idiotic traffic and transportation laws that allow drivers to kill and maim others with impunity. You need to improve your reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Great article on this...
https://slate.com/business/2023/03/dc-car-crash-tickets-rock-creek-parkway-speeding.html

[Anonymous]

Why would the news be protecting the name of the criminal driver?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would the news be protecting the name of the criminal driver?

Gee, I wonder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of it is that 25 mph is absurd. What I meant was unpaid citations that raise to the level of misdemeanor. Repeated unsafe behavior. The people I have in mind have 20+ and also behave anti socially otherwise

Yes, 25 mph is absurd. It should be no higher than 20 mph.

You are genuinely a stick in the mud oldhead

But I think they should absolutely chase arrest and take away all their licenses including for driving an atv. Take away the DL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But let me guess, suspending licenses and impounding cars of reckless drivers who have insane numbers of violations will violate rights and is oppression. Tell that to the families of the dead.
They were speed camera tickets. The driver is not identified in speed camera tickets. No way to know who racked up those tickets.

The car racked up the tickets. Impound the car.

This is a good opportunity for Congress to drag some officials into a hearing with the cameras rolling:

-- How was this allowed to happen?

-- Does DC have a system to identify and investigate cases where a single vehicle or vehicles registered to a single address/entity rack up a large number of fines (whether paid or unpaid)? What is the number? 10 per year, 20 per year? What is the procedure for these cases?

-- How many other vehicles/owners have more than 10 or 20 fines and what is the District doing about them?

DC made it easier for stuff like this to happen by changing the law that required tickets to be paid off to register the car. DC simply does not care that things like this happen.

A friend of mine likes to say that this results in punishment for compliance, in that those who comply with the law in the District pay fees and fines while those who operate a business without a license, don't pay speeding tickets, and jump fares face little to no enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the impact of lax public safety and everyone trying to highjack it for a pet agenda.

https://dailyvoice.com/virginia/fairfax/news/hearts-break-after-triple-fatal-rideshare-crash-in-dc/859125/

3 decent, hardworking men, with their lives ahead of them, who were supporting families, are now dead. They came to the US to pursue opportunities and contributed in a positive way. They were POC.

The arguments against basic public safety are BS. The Council has disincentivized traffic stops and MoCo is considering banning most.

THIS is the human toll in service of ideology. And use of race and poverty IS BS. Poor, hardworking, good people of color are the primary VICTIMS of the criminals.

This happened on National Park Service road in DC, why are you bringing up Montgomery County?

Because, even as a liberal, i can see that “woke” progressive ideology has translated into policy like this (allowing speeders with $12k speeding tickets not to lose their license and keep driving dangerously). That ideology is becoming adopted on a nation wide scale in order to promote more equitable outcomes. Including in MoCo county. Therefore, it’s not unrelated to mention MoCo.

Again, this car deaths incident clearly shows the issue and that is of how the city council is weighing the potential human toll of car accidents from dangerous drivers keeping their licenses because they city won’t rescind them even with $12k in speeding tickets vs. the disproportionate socioeconomic burden someone from a disadvantaged community may experience if they lost their license.

Simply put, this is a basically cost benefit analysis being weighed by our council members of poor people driving dangerously keeping the ability to drive their cars vs. everyone else having to live with them if they drive dangerously and no matter how dangerously. But sure you can plug your wish for more buses etc. That’s super helpful.

I think the lack of tow/boot crews is on the Mayor and DPW moreso than Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the impact of lax public safety and everyone trying to highjack it for a pet agenda.

https://dailyvoice.com/virginia/fairfax/news/hearts-break-after-triple-fatal-rideshare-crash-in-dc/859125/

3 decent, hardworking men, with their lives ahead of them, who were supporting families, are now dead. They came to the US to pursue opportunities and contributed in a positive way. They were POC.

The arguments against basic public safety are BS. The Council has disincentivized traffic stops and MoCo is considering banning most.

THIS is the human toll in service of ideology. And use of race and poverty IS BS. Poor, hardworking, good people of color are the primary VICTIMS of the criminals.

This happened on National Park Service road in DC, why are you bringing up Montgomery County?

Because, even as a liberal, i can see that “woke” progressive ideology has translated into policy like this (allowing speeders with $12k speeding tickets not to lose their license and keep driving dangerously). That ideology is becoming adopted on a nation wide scale in order to promote more equitable outcomes. Including in MoCo county. Therefore, it’s not unrelated to mention MoCo.

Again, this car deaths incident clearly shows the issue and that is of how the city council is weighing the potential human toll of car accidents from dangerous drivers keeping their licenses because they city won’t rescind them even with $12k in speeding tickets vs. the disproportionate socioeconomic burden someone from a disadvantaged community may experience if they lost their license.

Simply put, this is a basically cost benefit analysis being weighed by our council members of poor people driving dangerously keeping the ability to drive their cars vs. everyone else having to live with them if they drive dangerously and no matter how dangerously. But sure you can plug your wish for more buses etc. That’s super helpful.

I think the lack of tow/boot crews is on the Mayor and DPW moreso than Council.

Well the Council can hold oversight hearings, pass legislation, and allocate funding for increased enforcement. Mayor’s job is to execute the laws promulgated by Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the impact of lax public safety and everyone trying to highjack it for a pet agenda.

https://dailyvoice.com/virginia/fairfax/news/hearts-break-after-triple-fatal-rideshare-crash-in-dc/859125/

3 decent, hardworking men, with their lives ahead of them, who were supporting families, are now dead. They came to the US to pursue opportunities and contributed in a positive way. They were POC.

The arguments against basic public safety are BS. The Council has disincentivized traffic stops and MoCo is considering banning most.

THIS is the human toll in service of ideology. And use of race and poverty IS BS. Poor, hardworking, good people of color are the primary VICTIMS of the criminals.

This happened on National Park Service road in DC, why are you bringing up Montgomery County?

Because, even as a liberal, i can see that “woke” progressive ideology has translated into policy like this (allowing speeders with $12k speeding tickets not to lose their license and keep driving dangerously). That ideology is becoming adopted on a nation wide scale in order to promote more equitable outcomes. Including in MoCo county. Therefore, it’s not unrelated to mention MoCo.

Again, this car deaths incident clearly shows the issue and that is of how the city council is weighing the potential human toll of car accidents from dangerous drivers keeping their licenses because they city won’t rescind them even with $12k in speeding tickets vs. the disproportionate socioeconomic burden someone from a disadvantaged community may experience if they lost their license.

Simply put, this is a basically cost benefit analysis being weighed by our council members of poor people driving dangerously keeping the ability to drive their cars vs. everyone else having to live with them if they drive dangerously and no matter how dangerously. But sure you can plug your wish for more buses etc. That’s super helpful.

No, you're not. Or maybe you were in, like, 1992. But now it's 2023. Just like if Abraham Lincoln or Dwight Eisenhower or even Ronald Reagan communicated from the Great Beyond to say they were Republicans.

I am not going to qualify a damn thing for you. I support abortion, legalizing drugs, a lot of justice reform efforts, but really some of these measures are just fodder for congress when they have their upcoming hearing with the dc council. That and they can use this in 2024.

It’s not rocket science. If you let someone rack up $12k in speeding tickets without taking their license, booting them, or taking any real proactive measures to prevent them from speeding and crashing then you are an idiot. These criminal justice policies, many of which are done with the good faith effort at promoting equity, are tantamount to unjustified leniency.

$12k in tickets and dude can drive around and smash in to people! GTFO. It’s insanity.

Dp. Posters like that PP are going to be the ruin of the Democratic Party. Us normal people are sick of it.