DC driver with $12k in tickets flees US Park police, kills 3 people

Anonymous
The driver was pulled over for a traffic stop by Park Police and pulled off. It was a male and female in that car. One is in critical condition.

Looking at all the tickets this car racked up, they were all over the city except for WOTP.
Anonymous
Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license
Anonymous
This is proof that the traffic enforcement cameras are not about public safety, and just about revenue. If they were about public safety, then DC would be impounding vehicles with this many offenses. And often times, you can capture a photo of the driver from those cameras, so there may have been grounds to penalize the driver before this incident.

Maybe DC will finally look for repeat camera offenses to go after terrible drivers/cars and act on the promise that the cameras are about safety. But I doubt it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license


Since the city has decided to give a free pass to fake license tags, it doesn’t matter what jurisdiction the car is registered in or how many fines it racked up.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license

Yes - it was DC plates

The wtop video has a clear picture of it. If you enter the plates into the dc ticket database you see in they
got multiple $1000 speeding tickets!

When is it enough? I can write the query for dc to identify these cars and boot them. It is not hard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is proof that the traffic enforcement cameras are not about public safety, and just about revenue. If they were about public safety, then DC would be impounding vehicles with this many offenses. And often times, you can capture a photo of the driver from those cameras, so there may have been grounds to penalize the driver before this incident.

Maybe DC will finally look for repeat camera offenses to go after terrible drivers/cars and act on the promise that the cameras are about safety. But I doubt it.


This is a great point. Please call into kojo this Friday and bring it up
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A no pursuit policy is coming.


It wasn't a pursuit.


The police spokesman said that their pursuit rules did not allow a pursuit for this situation. Whatever the person was stopped for, that by itself did not justify pursuit and I'll accept that.

Just intervention should have occurred long before this week.
Anonymous
Have the identities of the driver and passenger of the Lexus that caused the deaths of the 3 men been released ???
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:But let me guess, suspending licenses and impounding cars of reckless drivers who have insane numbers of violations will violate rights and is oppression. Tell that to the families of the dead.
They were speed camera tickets. The driver is not identified in speed camera tickets. No way to know who racked up those tickets.


The car racked up the tickets. Impound the car.


This is a good opportunity for Congress to drag some officials into a hearing with the cameras rolling:

-- How was this allowed to happen?

-- Does DC have a system to identify and investigate cases where a single vehicle or vehicles registered to a single address/entity rack up a large number of fines (whether paid or unpaid)? What is the number? 10 per year, 20 per year? What is the procedure for these cases?

-- How many other vehicles/owners have more than 10 or 20 fines and what is the District doing about them?


DC made it easier for stuff like this to happen by changing the law that required tickets to be paid off to register the car. DC simply does not care that things like this happen.


It's an equity issue. The statistics showed that people of certain groups were most often in this situation, so coming down hard on scofflaws would disproportionately affect that group.


But it was $12k in tickets! It'd be one thing if DC waived a few hundred dollars for an indigent family, but once a driver racks up tens of thousands in fines and kills three people there should be some consequences. Should we just look the other way on everything now?


They were speed camera tickets. The driver was never identified. Only the car.


It doesn't matter, you lock up the car.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license


Since the city has decided to give a free pass to fake license tags, it doesn’t matter what jurisdiction the car is registered in or how many fines it racked up.



fake license tags? How is that a thing? Would the license scanner on police cars immediately pick that up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license


Since the city has decided to give a free pass to fake license tags, it doesn’t matter what jurisdiction the car is registered in or how many fines it racked up.



fake license tags? How is that a thing? Would the license scanner on police cars immediately pick that up?


Fake or expired dealer tags. The Council has decided that police should ignore this for equity reasons. There is no longer a need register your car.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the perpetrator a DC car? It is hard for DC to enforce tickets against MD and VA drivers because those states won't enforce them against their citizens - can DC take away a MD or VA license


Since the city has decided to give a free pass to fake license tags, it doesn’t matter what jurisdiction the car is registered in or how many fines it racked up.



fake license tags? How is that a thing? Would the license scanner on police cars immediately pick that up?


Pfff, walk on the boardwalk and buy souvenir license plates at any tourist trap shop.

Or shop at plate depot!

https://www.platedepot.com/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP of the thread about leniency for DUIs. This is also outrageous. This person was a known serial speeder who ran red lights. It was honestly just a matter of time until they killed someone. I truly don’t understand why we basically do nothing about vehicular crimes.


Because the mayor and DC government elites make political hay catering to drivers. They go out of their way to make driving as cheap and easy as possible and with as little personal responsibility as well. Driver are allowed to behave with impunity in DC, no matter how many people die because of it. That and pandering to conservatives, basically hand in glove here, is the mayor's platform.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP of the thread about leniency for DUIs. This is also outrageous. This person was a known serial speeder who ran red lights. It was honestly just a matter of time until they killed someone. I truly don’t understand why we basically do nothing about vehicular crimes.


Because the mayor and DC government elites make political hay catering to drivers. They go out of their way to make driving as cheap and easy as possible and with as little personal responsibility as well. Driver are allowed to behave with impunity in DC, no matter how many people die because of it. That and pandering to conservatives, basically hand in glove here, is the mayor's platform.


Didn't DC recently lower the default speed limit to 25?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Imagine if DC got tough on crime, law enforcement, and suspended the driver's licenses of people with outrageous bills for vehicle violations. 3 more people would be alive. More examples of how being lax on criminal behavior is destroying lives:


https://wtop.com/dc/2023/03/3-dead-2-injured-after-two-vehicle-crash-on-rock-creek-parkway/

But let me guess, suspending licenses and impounding cars of reckless drivers who have insane numbers of violations will violate rights and is oppression. Tell that to the families of the dead.


Aww, it’s so. precious how you think suspending that person’s license would have stopped them from driving.
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