DC driver with $12k in tickets flees US Park police, kills 3 people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that legislation is waaay too light. Also, we know that people already ignore their 8 hundred tickets, so why would they care that their drivers license was revoked?

We need DC police to be actively scanning license plates and impounding vehicles on a daily basis in addition to the boot crews.

Lol sure. Like dc is not doing this already. Try posting about something you know.

If they are, it's not remotely enough. Just driving the city during rush hour, I could run somebody's plate on the police website and someone pops up with a few hundred to a few thousand in tix.

I've lived here 15 years and have barely seen police pull someone over. It was a weekly thing to see driving to/from work where I used to live where traffic enforcement was done constantly with unmarked cars. Saw it so frequently, you got to know exactly which unmarked cars were the police ones and also was pulled over myself a couple of times.

[Anonymous]

What do you want to bet that the offender had a buddy working at DMV who buried the paperwork that would have pulled the license? Wish the Post would dig down on that? DC corruption runs deep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to bet that the offender had a buddy working at DMV who buried the paperwork that would have pulled the license? Wish the Post would dig down on that? DC corruption runs deep.

Nope doesn't matter, given that drivers in DC don't face real repercussions most of the time. Why would a DC driver care that DMV pulled their license in a city that lets people rack up $10k in tickets without repercussion? They wouldn't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you want to bet that the offender had a buddy working at DMV who buried the paperwork that would have pulled the license? Wish the Post would dig down on that? DC corruption runs deep.

I don't think there was a conspiracy just regular DC incompetence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you want to bet that the offender had a buddy working at DMV who buried the paperwork that would have pulled the license? Wish the Post would dig down on that? DC corruption runs deep.

Nope doesn't matter, given that drivers in DC don't face real repercussions most of the time. Why would a DC driver care that DMV pulled their license in a city that lets people rack up $10k in tickets without repercussion? They wouldn't care.

See this is where you are clueless about DC. Parking tickets, stop sign cameras, speed cameras are written against a license plate not to a person/license. These are civil infractions given to the registered owner of the car. Licenses are real ID and issued for 8 years. You would have to get moving violation given by a police officer to lose your license.

DC car registration is only given for one or two years. Before you can renew your registration all your tickets have to be paid. In addition to this ticket enforcement will boot and tow any car with two or more tickets over 61 days old.

So stop sign tickets are $100, parking tickets $30-$100, $100-$500 for speeding. DC speed limit is 15 or 25 mph. If you do not pay the fine in 30 days it doubles and you will usually get the ticket from a camera 20-30 days after the infraction. Within a mile of my house there are two stop sign camera and two speed cameras(one where it is easy to go 50-60 mph).

If you are an Uber driver or Amazon gig worker using your own car you can easily rack up the tickets pretty quickly- like $2,000-$4,000 in a month. The speed cameras are pretty easily seen. The stop sign cameras get a lot of people. I know some who got 5 each week for a month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

How is someone this stupid smart enough to even understand language, much less type on a phone or computer?

[Anonymous]

We need a ban on straight roads! Every road should have a 90 degree turn every quarter mile!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need a ban on straight roads! Every road should have a 90 degree turn every quarter mile!

Yes, actually. Horizontal deflection (for example, lateral shifts, chicanes, circles within intersections) is a well-established strategy for traffic calming.

https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/speedmgt/ePrimer_modules/module1.cfm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

No, the road design sets the speed, in two ways. First, the road is designed for a certain design speed and/or a certain target speed. Second, the actual posted speed limit is often set based on the speeds the drivers are going on the road.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

No, the road design sets the speed, in two ways. First, the road is designed for a certain design speed and/or a certain target speed. Second, the actual posted speed limit is often set based on the speeds the drivers are going on the road.

You are not familiar with rock creek apparently. It’s extremely twisty, surrounded by trees and canyons with massive 100 year old narrow stone bridges and tunnels. It’s tempting suicide to be going 100 on it and it sounds like this driver was in that state and only survived by dumb luck and alcohol poisoning. No road design can account for such reckless behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

No, the road design sets the speed, in two ways. First, the road is designed for a certain design speed and/or a certain target speed. Second, the actual posted speed limit is often set based on the speeds the drivers are going on the road.

You are not familiar with rock creek apparently. It’s extremely twisty, surrounded by trees and canyons with massive 100 year old narrow stone bridges and tunnels. It’s tempting suicide to be going 100 on it and it sounds like this driver was in that state and only survived by dumb luck and alcohol poisoning. No road design can account for such reckless behavior.

Are there curves? Yes. Is it "extremely twisty"? No. It's a four-lane highway, with plenty to entice drivers into exceeding the 35 mph posted speed limit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

No, the road design sets the speed, in two ways. First, the road is designed for a certain design speed and/or a certain target speed. Second, the actual posted speed limit is often set based on the speeds the drivers are going on the road.

You are not familiar with rock creek apparently. It’s extremely twisty, surrounded by trees and canyons with massive 100 year old narrow stone bridges and tunnels. It’s tempting suicide to be going 100 on it and it sounds like this driver was in that state and only survived by dumb luck and alcohol poisoning. No road design can account for such reckless behavior.

Are there curves? Yes. Is it "extremely twisty"? No. It's a four-lane highway, with plenty to entice drivers into exceeding the 35 mph posted speed limit.

No amount of road design on Rock Creek was going to prevent that fatal crash, come on now. I'm all for designing roads for safety, but that doesn't mean we don't also better enforce preventing horrifically unsafe drivers with repeat DUIs and $10k in tickets from being on the road.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A fiery crash earlier this year that involved a driver with a history of DUI convictions and a valid D.C. driver’s license inspired legislation that aims to resolve failures in the city’s enforcement processes, targeting drivers with long records of dangerous on-road behavior.”

This is a nice gesture I suppose, but I’m not convinced someone who was drunk, high, and going 100 mph on rock creek parkway after, what, 5? DUIs and reckless driving charge, is really going to care that their license was suspended. She should have been in prison already.

Sounds like the road is poorly designed if it allows someone to reach speeds of 100mph.

That doesn’t make any sense at all. Speed limits set the speed not the road design. I could easily go 120 on any highway but that doesn’t mean that the road was designed the wrong way it means that I am breaking the speed limit and driving recklessly.

No, the road design sets the speed, in two ways. First, the road is designed for a certain design speed and/or a certain target speed. Second, the actual posted speed limit is often set based on the speeds the drivers are going on the road.

You are not familiar with rock creek apparently. It’s extremely twisty, surrounded by trees and canyons with massive 100 year old narrow stone bridges and tunnels. It’s tempting suicide to be going 100 on it and it sounds like this driver was in that state and only survived by dumb luck and alcohol poisoning. No road design can account for such reckless behavior.

Are there curves? Yes. Is it "extremely twisty"? No. It's a four-lane highway, with plenty to entice drivers into exceeding the 35 mph posted speed limit.

No amount of road design on Rock Creek was going to prevent that fatal crash, come on now. I'm all for designing roads for safety, but that doesn't mean we don't also better enforce preventing horrifically unsafe drivers with repeat DUIs and $10k in tickets from being on the road.

We need better road design AND better ways to keep dangerous drivers off the road. As you say.