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Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


Well maybe yours aren't but mine are doing great!

MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.


So, so true. Not sure where all the money is going, but our kids certainly aren’t seeing good results.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


Well maybe yours aren't but mine are doing great!

MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.


So, so true. Not sure where all the money is going, but our kids certainly aren’t seeing good results.


Maybe yours aren't, but mine are doing great. In fact, the opportunities available today are substantially better than the education I had at a W 30 years ago.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.


I know some fearmongers would have you believe this, but the demographics of the county have changed substantially over the past 20 years. This has an impact on test score averages, but in no way has the quality of education declined. You can do as well or better today than in years past. The same amazing opportunities are available to anyone who is interested.


Very true!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.

Actually, that's incorrect. 72% of MCPS 3rd graders read at or above level.
If you're going to troll, try at least to keep current.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.

Actually, that's incorrect. 72% of MCPS 3rd graders read at or above level.
If you're going to troll, try at least to keep current.


Stop throwing cold water on my false narrative. Just because it isn't factually correct doesn't mean people don't want to hear that society is in decline. This has been a popular theme for centuries!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.

Actually, that's incorrect. 72% of MCPS 3rd graders read at or above level.
If you're going to troll, try at least to keep current.


I thought it was much lower than that when they presentated at the BOE last year.

What is your source?
Anonymous
MSDE has a document saying digital individual reports were provided to school districts in January, and printed reports will be provided in February.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Documents/DAAIT/Assessment/MCAP/MCAPPathtoReportingSpring2022Results.pdf
Anonymous
The percentage of students scoring proficient in SY2021-22 MCAP ELA grade 3–8 tests for MCPS is 53%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MSDE has a document saying digital individual reports were provided to school districts in January, and printed reports will be provided in February.

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Documents/DAAIT/Assessment/MCAP/MCAPPathtoReportingSpring2022Results.pdf


Exactly - so why hasn't MCPS uploaded them to parentvue?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.

Actually, that's incorrect. 72% of MCPS 3rd graders read at or above level.
If you're going to troll, try at least to keep current.


I thought it was much lower than that when they presentated at the BOE last year.

What is your source?

BOE meeting last October.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/09/23/montomgery-county-student-test-scores/
Anonymous
That 71.7 percent figure is the school system’s performance target in reading. MCPS's performance target is probably much lower than national or state reading proficiency standards.

It looks like that 71.7 percent figure is regarding students in second, fifth, eighth and 11th grades (not just 3rd graders), and is based on "a mix of students’ report card grades, district tests and other outside exams — such as state-level exams, AP tests and the SAT." Report cards are highly inflated. To determine actual (not inflated) reading proficency, outside assessments such as MAP-R or even MCAP would be a more reliable gauge than MCPS's performance target.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That 71.7 percent figure is the school system’s performance target in reading. MCPS's performance target is probably much lower than national or state reading proficiency standards.

It looks like that 71.7 percent figure is regarding students in second, fifth, eighth and 11th grades (not just 3rd graders), and is based on "a mix of students’ report card grades, district tests and other outside exams — such as state-level exams, AP tests and the SAT." Report cards are highly inflated. To determine actual (not inflated) reading proficency, outside assessments such as MAP-R or even MCAP would be a more reliable gauge than MCPS's performance target.

No, their target was 67%. They exceeded that target.
Talking about reading? Reading comprehension is vital. You may want to follow that advice
Anonymous
Also, state profiency reading is 38%, while national is only 32%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for my current 5th grader.

Does the state send the results out, or does MCPS?


Scores on this test don't really matter. They're basically just made up. There's nothing to compare it to and no historical record. My point is don't get too worked up over it.


I know, but in principle if they are going to spend that much time testing the kids, I want the results. They have them, clearly; they simply won’t share them until forced to do so.


So would i if this test meant anything but it's never been used anywhere so hard to get a sense of what the scores really mean. On the one hand MCPS has scores well above national norms on tests like NWEA's MAP but on this new test everyone fails which makes me think it's just a bad test.


MCPS scores are not well above the national norms on MAP! Take a look at your kids MAP report and compare the line for the national average with that of MCPS. MCPS is only slightly higher.


Thank you rational DCUM player. Remember folks just because you pay a small fortune for your schools doesn’t guarantee they’re very good. MCPS is living off the fumes of a reputation from 40 years ago. When half of your 3rd graders struggle to read, all is not well - and hasn’t been well - in Rockville.

Actually, that's incorrect. 72% of MCPS 3rd graders read at or above level.
If you're going to troll, try at least to keep current.


WTG MCPS!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:That 71.7 percent figure is the school system’s performance target in reading. MCPS's performance target is probably much lower than national or state reading proficiency standards.

It looks like that 71.7 percent figure is regarding students in second, fifth, eighth and 11th grades (not just 3rd graders), and is based on "a mix of students’ report card grades, district tests and other outside exams — such as state-level exams, AP tests and the SAT." Report cards are highly inflated. To determine actual (not inflated) reading proficency, outside assessments such as MAP-R or even MCAP would be a more reliable gauge than MCPS's performance target.

No, their target was 67%. They exceeded that target.
Talking about reading? Reading comprehension is vital. You may want to follow that advice


You need to take your own advice about reading comprehension, and not only that, you need better math and analytical skills as well. MCPS met their low reading performance target -- hooray. However, MCPS students' 53% MCAP reading proficiency is not worth celebrating.
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