I'm the PP who started this train of thought. Not jealous, DC in first round, and I actually don't think many favors are happening. More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home. |
I see the other side of this as more important. Rather than seeing the teacher my child is given as a reflection of my “importance” within the school, I want my kids to get to know a variety of teaching and management styles. I also teach them how to navigate and get along with management styles that don’t mesh with their personalities. To me this is more important as a life skill and for future employment. Who cares if their teacher isn’t the “best” in parent circles, my kid can learn some really important skills that will help them deal with crappy bosses in adulthood. |
This is certainly true at our school. Join and volunteer for the PTA, get to know the Principal and your kid will get placed into AAP. It’s a connection game. Also, it is true that once the kids are in AAP, the mommies stop volunteering as much. |
Nice bullying tactic right there: Using title in a derogatory way to make it name calling and establish an "other" group. Here is hoping you only do that on message boards, and not around your kids. If you want to make a statement that you are against AAP, have an argument with valid points. Don't start bullying people to claim things are unfair. Have proof. |
| At our ES not ever teachers’ kids are in AAP, and several of PTO moms whom volunteered a lot didn’t get their kids into AAP. |
It's what PP said: More that involved parents are also involved with supporting their kids learning at home. Also, the older our kids get, the more time they spend on extracurriculars, so I spend a lot more time taking my 5th grader around to different activities/enrichment than I do my kindergartener. I have way less time to spend at at the school now. It's usually moms whose older kids are in grades K-3 that are most involved, then as their younger children start ES, their involvement drops. It's not about getting their kid into AAP, you sound suuuuper paranoid and jealous with that statement, PP. Sorrynotsorry your kid didn't get in to AAP. Mine didn't either, but that's because she doesn't belong there, and I'm totally okay with that. |
I think there’s a degree of truth to this, but not to a huge extent and probably only at the LLIV/centers if they’re also your base school. I do think if a kid has a borderline application/scores, if the parent is known to the school and can put in a good and credible word for their kid, that that might be the deciding factor. My kid’s base school isn’t LLIV or a center and I’m pretty sure no one here cares about parent involvement in terms of AAP. The most involved parents I know have kids in Gen Ed here. But my friend who’s kid is at another school with LLIV is primed to go heavy volunteer Tiger mom to get her kid into AAP. Low-key think it’s a psy-op planted in these forums to encourage parents to volunteer though. |
IME This is usually very true w/PTA moms and those with xxxxx@fcps.edu email addresses |
Funny how you didn't feel the need to lecture 16:16 and 22:52 for their bullying tactics.
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Not really because I only read the last few posts. Why read page after page of this- I skipped to the end. You can lecture them, I feel sure of it. Here are points you can use that have been talked about in the past: Reasons aap sucks 1. AAP perpetuates racial and sea inequalities 2. The center model uses more buses during a time we have a shortage and environmentally is not helpful 3. The children in the center program can feel pressure at a youbg age that may not be helpful from a Mental health standpoint 4. Creating a center with gen Ed classes can make the gen Ed kid feel bad about themselves 5. The process of admission itself seems very subjective and may miss children who will do well Reasons to keep aap 1. State law mandates some kind of gifted program 2. Principals tell teachers to only meet with their low or medium reading groups, so the higher groups rarely have small group time The real reason FCPS keeps aap; They look at test scores and want to keep affluent and high performing students from going to privates so they offer this program. It works and is the main reason they won’t get rid of it. (They will never say this) |
I have an AAP kid and agree with all of this. I don’t want them to get rid of AAP but centers need to go. |
You have a very long road ahead of you if you think schools should accommodate when only 3 kids need a certain class. Wait until high school when the options are they don’t take it, they find your own school and your provide your transportation while paying, assuming it fits into their schedule. Or they take it online, maybe through FCPS or again, through your a private school where you pay tuition. |
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^I am speaking from personal experience. It wasn’t an advanced class but a class only offered at the school virtually. It was a simple “Sorry, it’s filled.” They gave my kid two other completely unrelated options that would fit in his schedule. It’s about what fits in, not what you want at that point. We certainly weren’t demanding a class spot and bus transportation. Lesson learned, we are already researching other virtual options outside of FCPS for next year.
I firmly think they need to stop the transportation for AAP centers and one of mine went through AAP but stayed at the base school. There are so many other things to spend the money on. |
No way they’re going to do this. It’s an equity issue. You’d basically be excluding all the kids whose parents don’t have the resources to drive them every day. |
At ours, they definitely did get into the APP Program. As well as all the leads in school musicals, solos in band, etc. I don't think it's a coincidence but who knows? (FWIW, my DC tried for none of those things -musical leads, for eg- so DC was not affected by that. Just telling you what I saw). |