The difference btw the AAP class and the General Ed class

[Anonymous]

My child in gen ed had a few kids in class that had major behavioral problems, but on the other hand the class was really small (15 kids). There were also a lot of really nice kids in his class and many parents that volunteered.

My child in AAP had a few really mean kids in his class. Some AAP kids looked down on the gen ed class. It felt very cliquish and most AAP kids came from wealthy families. These kids were all stretched thin outside of school with multiple sports and activities. Parents were overinvolved in class and school activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep AAP but get rid of centers.

You've got it backwards. Keep centers but get rid of Local Level IV.

Not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

+ a million. If people are seeing that kind of difference between Gen Ed and AAP it’s a reflection of the school, not the programs as a whole. For whatever reason parents see Gen Ed at their school as something to be avoided and push hard for AAP. At our center school Gen Ed is basically the non Asian UMC families. Plenty of bright kids and involved parents. Nobody except the Asian families prep for AAP because Gen Ed is by no means a place where kids get left behind. It’s seen as a place for the advanced kids who need that environment and peer group, and that’s about it.

[Anonymous]

That's great if Gen Ed works for you at your UMC school. Our experience was quite different for us in our 60% Farms Title 1 school where, as a PP pointed out, there can be so many kids 3 grades below and a few 2 grades above in one class. I didn't want that for my kids. At the Title 1 school, few parents showed up at open house. It was like night and day once we got to the AAP center in terms of parent involvement, peers and classwork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

+ a million
My kids had to attend a center school as Gen Ed students and it was horrible. The AAP kids actually thought they were superior - as did their parents. It was such a relief to get to middle school where they could take honors classes, and then high school where they could take honors and AP. They excelled. AAP center schools are truly the worst and I’m astounded they still exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's great if Gen Ed works for you at your UMC school. Our experience was quite different for us in our 60% Farms Title 1 school where, as a PP pointed out, there can be so many kids 3 grades below and a few 2 grades above in one class. I didn't want that for my kids. At the Title 1 school, few parents showed up at open house. It was like night and day once we got to the AAP center in terms of parent involvement, peers and classwork.

Wouldn't it be better to just do whatever you can to move to a different school pyramid so you don't have to put all your eggs in the AAP basket? That puts so much pressure on kids to "have" to get in to AAP in order to have a decent school experience. There are non Title 1 schools in affordable areas that don't have such stark disparities.

This is why people need to stop speaking in generalities about AAP vs Gen Ed and framing Gen Ed as some kind of nightmare place. It varies wildly depending on the school. Making sweeping statements is very unhelpful and freaks parents out unnecessarily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

+ a million
My kids had to attend a center school as Gen Ed students and it was horrible. The AAP kids actually thought they were superior - as did their parents. It was such a relief to get to middle school where they could take honors classes, and then high school where they could take honors and AP. They excelled. AAP center schools are truly the worst and I’m astounded they still exist.

Now, with every ES having LLIV, every school will be like this. How nice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

No. But the generalization was that AAP = good, smart kids and parents and non-AAP= not. I'll also say that perception bled into our Center School, with the AAP kids even given a separate promotion ceremony, separate events through the year, etc. And that perception is false, unwarranted and just plain ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

No. But the generalization was that AAP = good, smart kids and parents and non-AAP= not. I'll also say that perception bled into our Center School, with the AAP kids even given a separate promotion ceremony, separate events through the year, etc. And that perception is false, unwarranted and just plain ignorant.

That's on the principal. The base kids' parents need them to know that it's not ok and if it keeps happening, they need to do something about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

No. But the generalization was that AAP = good, smart kids and parents and non-AAP= not. I'll also say that perception bled into our Center School, with the AAP kids even given a separate promotion ceremony, separate events through the year, etc. And that perception is false, unwarranted and just plain ignorant.

That's on the principal. The base kids' parents need them to know that it's not ok and if it keeps happening, they need to do something about it.

The principal. And AAP parents.

I had one parent flat out tell me before promotion how excited she was her kid would be AAP in MS since those kids can sort of keep to themselves and avoid Gen Ed kids. She thought mine was AAP. When I told her mine wasn't, she jsut fumbled and fussed until I turned my back on her. A lot of those parent are gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

No. But the generalization was that AAP = good, smart kids and parents and non-AAP= not. I'll also say that perception bled into our Center School, with the AAP kids even given a separate promotion ceremony, separate events through the year, etc. And that perception is false, unwarranted and just plain ignorant.

WOW - what school was this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is correct. AAP is not only a brain drain, taking all the best students out of the population of a school and classroom, leaving mediocre-poor lumped together behind. It's also a parent drain. I used to be volunteer coordinator for my child's ES, and when 3rd grade came and all the AAP kids left, so did all the volunteers. It's time to get rid of AAP. It's good for a handful of people, and bad for the rest of us.

Opinions like this reveal some of you for the a-holes you are. NEWSFLASH: some people CHOOSE not to send their kids to AAP. There are plenty of smart and motivated kids in "gen ed" classes. Mine was one of them. DC started honors classes in middle school (which our center school told us that all honors courses was essentially the AAP curriculum). DC is now in HS (10th) and all honors and AAP and killing it. Doing better than a lot of her AAP friends from ES.

Generalizing those not in AAP as mediocre and their parents . . . bunch of crap. The Gen Ed parent volunteers were just as involved -if not more so- at our ES. You smug hags need to check yourself.

Was this a Title 1 elementary school?

No. But the generalization was that AAP = good, smart kids and parents and non-AAP= not. I'll also say that perception bled into our Center School, with the AAP kids even given a separate promotion ceremony, separate events through the year, etc. And that perception is false, unwarranted and just plain ignorant.

That's on the principal. The base kids' parents need them to know that it's not ok and if it keeps happening, they need to do something about it.

The principal. And AAP parents.

I had one parent flat out tell me before promotion how excited she was her kid would be AAP in MS since those kids can sort of keep to themselves and avoid Gen Ed kids. She thought mine was AAP. When I told her mine wasn't, she jsut fumbled and fussed until I turned my back on her. A lot of those parent are gross.

I 100% don't understand why there is AAP in middle school when there are also honors classes. It's such a waste of resources.

[Anonymous]

PP coming back to say I really hope they remove AAP from middle schools before my children get there. I have one in 4th and the AAP-General Ed divide has been awful. There are girls who she was good friends with from before they were even in grade school that won't even look at her now, even though they're in extracurriculars together.