The difference btw the AAP class and the General Ed class

[Anonymous]

My older child is in the LLIV class at our school and my younger child is in 2nd so there is no AAP. We are in a diverse (25% FARMS, lots of immigrant families from all over the world, very mixed income families) school. Both room parents sent out sign up geniuses for almost the exact same things for the class holiday party. The LLIV sign up genius is fill, the 2nd grade one has only had three parents sign up so far.

Let's talk about equity....it's clearly the wealthier families in LLIV who can afford to contribute. Anyone who says AAP doesn't discriminate is a liar, liar, pants on fire.

[Anonymous]

It's not money, it's involvement. You've drawn the wrong conclusion from your anecdote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not money, it's involvement. You've drawn the wrong conclusion from your anecdote.

I believe that it’s both. DD’s ES was 35% FARMS, but there were none in her classes (small cohort). Which is not to say the kids are all wealthy; plenty were on the lower end of middle class.

DD’s 4th grade teacher once told me that her classrooms never had their needs unmet, that the parents were always generous and involved, year in and year out. They always ended up with too much of everything and shared them with other classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not money, it's involvement. You've drawn the wrong conclusion from your anecdote.

+1

DD’s AAP center solved this by requiring all the classes in a grade to co-plan and organize parties so they pooled the donations and planning help across the AAP vs Non-AAP classes.

[Anonymous]

Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

People may not like it, but I think this is true.

Also, it sounds like half the kids have parents who would struggle to read and understand what a sign up genius is and what it’s for. They want their kids to learn at school, not have parties or whatever you’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

I’ve worked in 2 Title 1 AAP Center, if the lower income students have the scores they will get into FCPS. In fact, FCPS will allow them in when they don’t get the scores to prove that they do believe in equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

I’ve worked in 2 Title 1 AAP Center, if the lower income students have the scores they will get into FCPS. In fact, FCPS will allow them in when they don’t get the scores to prove that they do believe in equity.

We noticed the push to diversify the classes in the last 2 years of AAP for my youngest. In addition, science fair was dropped, parents were no longer invited in for class events or classes were combined for events. Coincidentally, word study and the number of books required to be read at home decreased. This was in a 50% FARMs Title 1 school.

[Anonymous]

^^ Very different experience for my eldest.

[Anonymous]

Mine experience is the opposite regarding AAP and non AAP. Very few volunteers (sometimes 0) for DC1’s AAP class but 4 room parents and all signup filled up quickly for DC2’s grade 2 class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

I’ve worked in 2 Title 1 AAP Center, if the lower income students have the scores they will get into FCPS. In fact, FCPS will allow them in when they don’t get the scores to prove that they do believe in equity.

We noticed the push to diversify the classes in the last 2 years of AAP for my youngest. In addition, science fair was dropped, parents were no longer invited in for class events or classes were combined for events. Coincidentally, word study and the number of books required to be read at home decreased. This was in a 50% FARMs Title 1 school.

Sweetie, do you think this happened over the past two years because they let FARMS kids in or because of Covid? Your kid clearly didn't get his smarts from you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

I’ve worked in 2 Title 1 AAP Center, if the lower income students have the scores they will get into FCPS. In fact, FCPS will allow them in when they don’t get the scores to prove that they do believe in equity.

We noticed the push to diversify the classes in the last 2 years of AAP for my youngest. In addition, science fair was dropped, parents were no longer invited in for class events or classes were combined for events. Coincidentally, word study and the number of books required to be read at home decreased. This was in a 50% FARMs Title 1 school.

Sweetie, do you think this happened over the past two years because they let FARMS kids in or because of Covid? Your kid clearly didn't get his smarts from you.

No, Sweetie, this was happening prior to the pandemic. Higher poverty = fewer expectations. The pandemic was the excuse to boot any remaining expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intelligence and work ethic are at least 50% genetic, so it’s not a surprise the smarter kids have smarter and more on top of it parents.

Low to average intelligence parents can buy cupcakes or plates whatever. Doesn't require a degree in rocket science.

A lot of this is purely socioeconomic. More money = more money + time.

[Anonymous]

UMC school with language immersion. The LI classes have a ton of parents sign up for everything, the Gen Ed classes don’t have nearly as many. The classes have at least one event together each year but the the separate class events have different responses. The explanation I have is that the parents of the kids in LI are, on average, more involved in their kids education then the parents of the Gen Ed kids. We have friends whose kids are in Gen Ed who do volunteer and they end up doing more then we need to in LI.

Same financial backgrounds across the school, we are a low FARMs school, so it is not a money thing.

The parents I know who are very involved in Gen Ed are parents who have some very specific reasons why they didn’t place their kids in LI, like learning issues and speech issues. A decent number of parents just didn’t want the extra pressure of making their kids do homework that comes with LI.

[Anonymous]

^^ I bet they don't think twice about dedicating their evenings and weekends to their kids' sports.