What do people mean by White Hispanic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have never heard this term in my life.

My H is Hispanic, we live in a community that is 75% Hispanic, and I’ve also never heard this term. The only people who seem to care about classifying people as white or brown are white people.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watch the Argentina v Mexico futbol game to get an idea.

most are obviously white -- some look Italian. If I were an Italian American, and I wanted to use this ridiculous categorization to my advantage, I'd pick Hispanic. Who's to say otherwise?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Geraldo Riveria - Hispanic and Jewish, for example.

Jews from Spanish speaking countries aren't white Hispanics. They're Jewish.

Don’t be a moron. They are also Hispanic. They are Latino Jews, there are lots of them in Central and South America.

Yes, I have known Jewish Brazilians and Ethiopians, both countries have a large Jewish diaspora community apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

It’s not relevant.

Look, people like you always come up with these outlier situations then say “aha! See, the system is flawed! We must do away with the entire thing!”

Well, duh. Of course no one system is going to be perfect.

The whole point is to have a way of measuring overall patterns. We want to make sure that businesses, colleges, wealth, etc is more or less representative of the population. If a disproportionate number of white people, or males, or hetero, or whatever people are represented, then we know there’s a problem that needs to be addressed. It’s not designed to classify every single person exactly, it’s to see overall trends and make sure things are generally equal.

Will a small number of people game the system? Sure. It’s *always* been that way. It used to be wealth and connections helped you game it. So maybe now a few people get an advantage by checking off a particular box on a technicality. Honestly, I’d prefer that over someone getting in because daddy made a donation.

If you have a better idea for how we can make sure certain groups don’t have an advantage over others, say it! Things can always be improved, and coming up with new ideas is encouraged. But if it’s just “it’s not perfect so get rid of the entire thing”, that’s not helpful.

Is is very relevant, and clearly you can't answer the question because you know it's ridiculous for an Asian person to say they are "black", just as it is ridiculous for a white, blonde/blue eyed person to claim the Hispanic URM disadvantage.

So you are saying that if too many Asians from Central/S. America use the "Hispanic" designation, and they become over represented in business/elite institutions, then and only then should we categorize these Asians as "Not Hispanic"? But because the numbers are still too small, we'll let it slide and let some people basically cheat the system.

You think that's fair to the MC white or Asian kid who grew up in the US? Oh, I know.. life's not fair, so we will make it even more unfair to you so that other people whose lives are unfair get some advantage. Life's unfair for you, but for others we should try to make it more fair. That's essentially what you are saying.

How about "what color is your skin" ? Let's be honest.. you are judged by the color of your skin. A white Argentinian has way more advantages than than a dark skinned Argentinian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Geraldo Riveria - Hispanic and Jewish, for example.

Jews from Spanish speaking countries aren't white Hispanics. They're Jewish.

Don’t be a moron. They are also Hispanic. They are Latino Jews, there are lots of them in Central and South America.

Yes, I have known Jewish Brazilians and Ethiopians, both countries have a large Jewish diaspora community apparently.

there is no "Jew" on those forms. People are conflating culture and race. Those forms are typically about race, not your culture, otherwise, it would be fair for an Asian person from S. America to be Hispanic, and we all know that progressive liberals would flip out if we gave Asians an advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like what you're saying is that these Hispanics don't have any indigenous or African heritage. Is that what you mean?

This makes no sense. No one is talking about Africa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like what you're saying is that these Hispanics don't have any indigenous or African heritage. Is that what you mean?

This makes no sense. No one is talking about Africa.

Learn some history, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like what you're saying is that these Hispanics don't have any indigenous or African heritage. Is that what you mean?

This makes no sense. No one is talking about Africa.

Learn some history, please.

OP is talking about white Hispanics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the Argentina v Mexico futbol game to get an idea.

most are obviously white -- some look Italian. If I were an Italian American, and I wanted to use this ridiculous categorization to my advantage, I'd pick Hispanic. Who's to say otherwise?

No one.

Latino comes from Latin which comes from Latium, the specific region where rome is

So all Italian Americans no matter how diluted can put down Latino/Hispanic down without feeling “odd” about it

Until the usg starts administering dna tests to assay your level of indo-mestizo-indigenous blood, all italian Americans can truthfully put down Latino

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the Argentina v Mexico futbol game to get an idea.

most are obviously white -- some look Italian. If I were an Italian American, and I wanted to use this ridiculous categorization to my advantage, I'd pick Hispanic. Who's to say otherwise?

No one.

Latino comes from Latin which comes from Latium, the specific region where rome is

So all Italian Americans no matter how diluted can put down Latino/Hispanic down without feeling “odd” about it

Until the usg starts administering dna tests to assay your level of indo-mestizo-indigenous blood, all italian Americans can truthfully put down Latino

If only there was a way everyone could be a mature adult and choose the category that they feel best represents them, without using it to cheat the system or prove some point literally no one cares about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

It’s not relevant.

Look, people like you always come up with these outlier situations then say “aha! See, the system is flawed! We must do away with the entire thing!”

Well, duh. Of course no one system is going to be perfect.

The whole point is to have a way of measuring overall patterns. We want to make sure that businesses, colleges, wealth, etc is more or less representative of the population. If a disproportionate number of white people, or males, or hetero, or whatever people are represented, then we know there’s a problem that needs to be addressed. It’s not designed to classify every single person exactly, it’s to see overall trends and make sure things are generally equal.

Will a small number of people game the system? Sure. It’s *always* been that way. It used to be wealth and connections helped you game it. So maybe now a few people get an advantage by checking off a particular box on a technicality. Honestly, I’d prefer that over someone getting in because daddy made a donation.

If you have a better idea for how we can make sure certain groups don’t have an advantage over others, say it! Things can always be improved, and coming up with new ideas is encouraged. But if it’s just “it’s not perfect so get rid of the entire thing”, that’s not helpful.

Thanks for the mansplanation. Here’s an idea: include race only if you think white Hispanics are “gaming the system.” And by the way, not all white hispanics come from priviledge, which is a racist assumption in and of itself. I lived with a LC white Hispanic family in Spain who would adamantly disagree with your sweeping generalization.

They do have privilege. White privilege. I bet a North African migrant would trade places with them in a minute.

[Anonymous]

Some of you people on this board have a sick obsession with white Latinos. Who are you to tell anyone that they can' t call themselves Colombian, Mexican, or whatever because they are white. That is so absurd and ignorant. Latino is not a race. Go spend some time in Latin America and learn its history. White Latinos are not all wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people on this board have a sick obsession with white Latinos. Who are you to tell anyone that they can' t call themselves Colombian, Mexican, or whatever because they are white. That is so absurd and ignorant. Latino is not a race. Go spend some time in Latin America and learn its history. White Latinos are not all wealthy.

I totally agree! I’ve been on this board for years and this comes up regularly in the college forums. Re: Argentines especially. Brujas, all of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hispanic is a culture. White is a race.

I'm white Hispanic and I never know how to answer these rac(ist) questions on the forms.

Yes, exactly.

Jennifer Lopez is white Hispanic.

Juan Soto is black Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people on this board have a sick obsession with white Latinos. Who are you to tell anyone that they can' t call themselves Colombian, Mexican, or whatever because they are white. That is so absurd and ignorant. Latino is not a race. Go spend some time in Latin America and learn its history. White Latinos are not all wealthy.

I totally agree! I’ve been on this board for years and this comes up regularly in the college forums. Re: Argentines especially. Brujas, all of you.

Exactly. They are so paranoid about a white Latino taking a spot from their kid. I can assure you, there are more mediocre athletes and legacy admits than white Latinos taking spots.