What do people mean by White Hispanic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

colleges don't ask what Asian/European/African country your parents or grandparents are from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

I’m white and my kids are white. We were all born and spent many years living in various African countries. My family has lived in Africa for the past 400+ years. Are we of African descent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think "from Argentina" which is where a lot of the Nazis fled.

That's insulting. There are Germans who moved to Argentina in the early 1900s, so obviously they weren't Nazis.

If you're dumb enough to make that comment aloud to someone, just remember no one says to you, "oh, where all the slaveowners are from!" if you perhaps say you're from Virginia.

[Anonymous]

South American ashkenazis have it best

Ashkenazi culture and intelligence

Hispanic affirmative action points

A liscence for success in the us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

It’s not relevant.

Look, people like you always come up with these outlier situations then say “aha! See, the system is flawed! We must do away with the entire thing!”

Well, duh. Of course no one system is going to be perfect.

The whole point is to have a way of measuring overall patterns. We want to make sure that businesses, colleges, wealth, etc is more or less representative of the population. If a disproportionate number of white people, or males, or hetero, or whatever people are represented, then we know there’s a problem that needs to be addressed. It’s not designed to classify every single person exactly, it’s to see overall trends and make sure things are generally equal.

Will a small number of people game the system? Sure. It’s *always* been that way. It used to be wealth and connections helped you game it. So maybe now a few people get an advantage by checking off a particular box on a technicality. Honestly, I’d prefer that over someone getting in because daddy made a donation.

If you have a better idea for how we can make sure certain groups don’t have an advantage over others, say it! Things can always be improved, and coming up with new ideas is encouraged. But if it’s just “it’s not perfect so get rid of the entire thing”, that’s not helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Cameron Diaz?

Doe she get to be Hispanic?

Of course is she was born in a Latin country and / or to Latino/a parents. The assumption that all Hispanic or Latino people are brown is (while common) ignorant at best and racist at worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

I’m white and my kids are white. We were all born and spent many years living in various African countries. My family has lived in Africa for the past 400+ years. Are we of African descent?

Obviously yes. Just bc they are asking a flawed racist question doesn’t mean you aren’t African. White South Africans and Zimbabweans are also African.

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Anonymous wrote:Geraldo Riveria - Hispanic and Jewish, for example.

Jews from Spanish speaking countries aren't white Hispanics. They're Jewish.

Don’t be a moron. They are also Hispanic. They are Latino Jews, there are lots of them in Central and South America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My grandmother was Guatemalan, but descended from the conquistadors who invaded Central America. She was “proud” of her European Hispanic heritage (because in Guatemala it made her part of the upper class, and there’s a huge class/caste system there as there is many other places). I’m almost positive that there was a fair bit of mixing with the native population in the 10-15 generations between her conquistador ancestor and her, but she was adamant that she was fully Spanish. We consider ourselves Hispanic but also white (they are always separate questions on demographics).
My mom is going to do dna testing to find out more.

My DH's family from South America is like your grandmother. They were adamant they were Spanish and were in the upper caste. Only they were shocked when the DNA results came in as 90% Native Andean, 5% Ashkenazi and 5% Basque. Some of the extended family even have African blood but no one has more than 3% DNA from the Iberian peninsula! They still consider themselves white Hispanics, though!

My DD's college essay was about the impact of colonization on indigenous identify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

It’s not relevant.

Look, people like you always come up with these outlier situations then say “aha! See, the system is flawed! We must do away with the entire thing!”

Well, duh. Of course no one system is going to be perfect.

The whole point is to have a way of measuring overall patterns. We want to make sure that businesses, colleges, wealth, etc is more or less representative of the population. If a disproportionate number of white people, or males, or hetero, or whatever people are represented, then we know there’s a problem that needs to be addressed. It’s not designed to classify every single person exactly, it’s to see overall trends and make sure things are generally equal.

Will a small number of people game the system? Sure. It’s *always* been that way. It used to be wealth and connections helped you game it. So maybe now a few people get an advantage by checking off a particular box on a technicality. Honestly, I’d prefer that over someone getting in because daddy made a donation.

If you have a better idea for how we can make sure certain groups don’t have an advantage over others, say it! Things can always be improved, and coming up with new ideas is encouraged. But if it’s just “it’s not perfect so get rid of the entire thing”, that’s not helpful.

Thanks for the mansplanation. Here’s an idea: include race only if you think white Hispanics are “gaming the system.” And by the way, not all white hispanics come from priviledge, which is a racist assumption in and of itself. I lived with a LC white Hispanic family in Spain who would adamantly disagree with your sweeping generalization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are interested in cultural diversity, not just racial diversity.

so what checkbox should an Asian student from Africa check?

It’s not relevant.

Look, people like you always come up with these outlier situations then say “aha! See, the system is flawed! We must do away with the entire thing!”

Well, duh. Of course no one system is going to be perfect.

The whole point is to have a way of measuring overall patterns. We want to make sure that businesses, colleges, wealth, etc is more or less representative of the population. If a disproportionate number of white people, or males, or hetero, or whatever people are represented, then we know there’s a problem that needs to be addressed. It’s not designed to classify every single person exactly, it’s to see overall trends and make sure things are generally equal.

Will a small number of people game the system? Sure. It’s *always* been that way. It used to be wealth and connections helped you game it. So maybe now a few people get an advantage by checking off a particular box on a technicality. Honestly, I’d prefer that over someone getting in because daddy made a donation.

If you have a better idea for how we can make sure certain groups don’t have an advantage over others, say it! Things can always be improved, and coming up with new ideas is encouraged. But if it’s just “it’s not perfect so get rid of the entire thing”, that’s not helpful.

Thanks for the mansplanation. Here’s an idea: include race only if you think white Hispanics are “gaming the system.” And by the way, not all white hispanics come from priviledge, which is a racist assumption in and of itself. I lived with a LC white Hispanic family in Spain who would adamantly disagree with your sweeping generalization.

I have no idea why you think I said they come from privilege. I was addressing the PP who demanded to know what Asian people who live in Africa should choose.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for other white hispanics- did you apply to schools as hispanic? I did. And I will try to get my kids to, though sometimes I feel guilty about that.

Yes because that's what my son is. Why feel guilty about describing who you are?

I'm white Argentine. A mix of English, Scottish, and German. Blonde haired, blue eyed, skin that needs SPF in February. I understand the point behind asking for self identification but know they're looking for racial diversity (and whoever decided "Hispanic" was a race was a moron), which my toe headed UMC kids don't provide. It's a crappy loophole, I would absolutely feel guilty about using it.

If you put race as white and ethnicity as Hispanic, you aren’t getting a boost.

[Anonymous]

I have never heard this term in my life.

[Anonymous]

Watch the Argentina v Mexico futbol game to get an idea.