What do people mean by White Hispanic?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One word describes their race, one their ethnicity. Why is that challenging to understand?

What makes it challenging is that a lot of people in the US who identify as Hispanic are a mix of white and indigenous ancestry (this comes from Mexico being the dominant source of of Hispanics in the US, and most Mexicans having that type of background). Hispanic has become a proxy for that racial mix, which is not considered white.

In Mexico there are many, many people who are white especially among the upper classes. They tend to not immigrate to the US (because they are rich). Those who immigrate to the US tend to be the poorer classes who also tend to be either Mestizo or indigenous Mexican. So Americans think that all Mexicans are darker skin since they are the ones who immigrate here to the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One word describes their race, one their ethnicity. Why is that challenging to understand?

+10000
Can’t believe there are 9 pages debating this. Typical DCUM

[Anonymous]

I consider my kids white hispanic. My husband is hispanic (family has always been in Texas, generation before him only spoke Spanish and he is brown). He married me the white non hispanic lady. Our kids are light skinned with dark hair and eyes. They speak spanish and are culturally hispanic just happen to look white. I consider them white hispanic.

Husband's aunt did a DNA test. It was something like 95% american indian and 5% spanish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if you are native Mestizo born but light skin with no European connection or known ancestry?

The vast majority of Mestizos have European ancestry. Just look up YouTube videos of dna test reveals made by Hispanics.

After a certain number of generations back, can you still count it if no one in the present or in the last great great grandparent down were European?

Do you not understand that as former European colonies, Latin Americans have a European culture? They mostly speak Spanish (a European language), they mostly practice Catholicism, etc…

[Anonymous]

Is this guy "Hispanic"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this guy "Hispanic"?

Of course he is. He was born and raised in Argentina. He is latino and Hispanic. Is his family of Scottish origin? Yes, but huge swaths of Latin America have origins in Europe.

By your logic, no one born in the US is American.

[Anonymous]

These posts are so strange to me. White hispanics are basically anyone who are not Afro descent or indigenous. That's basically half of Latin America. I'm Hispanic, and not very indigenous (only 25%). I'm white hispanic. It's easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if you are native Mestizo born but light skin with no European connection or known ancestry?

Mestizo means mixed European and Indigenous.

Right, I don't understand how you could be Mestizo with no European connection?

Your family has no direct connection or ancestry to Europe. All known ancestors were born in native country.

But you aren't indigenous? So what is the mix. Mestizo means mixed. The white people came from somewhere

[Anonymous]

The confusion comes because OP, like most Americans, only see skin tone variations. They don’t understand any other way of differentiating among people.

[Anonymous]

What do they mean, OP?

Hilaria Baldwin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One word describes their race, one their ethnicity. Why is that challenging to understand?

What makes it challenging is that a lot of people in the US who identify as Hispanic are a mix of white and indigenous ancestry (this comes from Mexico being the dominant source of of Hispanics in the US, and most Mexicans having that type of background). Hispanic has become a proxy for that racial mix, which is not considered white.

In Mexico there are many, many people who are white especially among the upper classes. They tend to not immigrate to the US (because they are rich). Those who immigrate to the US tend to be the poorer classes who also tend to be either Mestizo or indigenous Mexican. So Americans think that all Mexicans are darker skin since they are the ones who immigrate here to the US.

But even the richer whiter Mexicans tend to have some indigenous ancestry. The people are more mixed there than in South America. The vast majority of Mexicans identify as either mixed or indigenous.

It is true that the dominant immigrant group tends more indigenous, which adds to the conflation between Hispanic as an ethnicity and mestizo/indigenous/brown as a race.

[Anonymous]

I’ve been watching the World Cup on Telemundo and there are many, many “white hispanic” presenters and hosts. Not to mention the white hispanic soccer players on teams like Uruguay and Argentina.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this guy "Hispanic"?

Of course he is. He was born and raised in Argentina. He is latino and Hispanic. Is his family of Scottish origin? Yes, but huge swaths of Latin America have origins in Europe.

By your logic, no one born in the US is American.

ok, so then there is Asian Hispanic, Black Hispanic? But they don't offer those on the forms.

Also "American" is a nationality, "Hispanic" is not. You are confusing nationality with ethnicity and culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been watching the World Cup on Telemundo and there are many, many “white hispanic” presenters and hosts. Not to mention the white hispanic soccer players on teams like Uruguay and Argentina.

and you think white Hispanics are part of the URM in higher ed, and so they should have that advantage, when their skin color (and hair color in some cases) already gives them an advantage in our mostly white country?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been watching the World Cup on Telemundo and there are many, many “white hispanic” presenters and hosts. Not to mention the white hispanic soccer players on teams like Uruguay and Argentina.

and you think white Hispanics are part of the URM in higher ed, and so they should have that advantage, when their skin color (and hair color in some cases) already gives them an advantage in our mostly white country?

No, because most “white hispanics” are well-off in their countries and they tend to NOT immigrate to the US. So it’s a non-issue.