Fetterman - Oz Debate — anyone keeping tabs on this?

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Anonymous wrote:So Oz says decisions about pregnancies are between a woman, her doctor, and her politicians???

GTFO

But if those politicians were pro-abortion you’d be shouting “preach it!”, wouldn’t you?

Pro right-to-abortion care so we’ll stay out of your decision except to ensure you have access of you want or need one? Of course. Weird question.

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Has Oz finally moved to Pennsylvania?

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s what you think of when you consider somebody a highly qualified candidate for the US Senate then your standards and expectations are absurdly low. What exactly has Fetterman achieved in his career to deserve this nomination? You may agree with his policies and you may dislike Oz but nobody objectively can say Fetterman is a person you’d want representing your interests in the Senate.

If he can press the button he's told to press, then he is qualified. Keeping a low profile and doing what he is told is an asset, not a disability.

Told by whom? Is this some lame attempt at sarcasm?

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Has Oz acknowledged all the “health” supplements he hawked over the years are quackery? What a disgrace. How can you trust someone so dishonest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s what you think of when you consider somebody a highly qualified candidate for the US Senate then your standards and expectations are absurdly low. What exactly has Fetterman achieved in his career to deserve this nomination? You may agree with his policies and you may dislike Oz but nobody objectively can say Fetterman is a person you’d want representing your interests in the Senate.

If he can press the button he's told to press, then he is qualified. Keeping a low profile and doing what he is told is an asset, not a disability.

Told by whom? Is this some lame attempt at sarcasm?

I do believe that this is the justification Alabama Republicans used for voting for Tuberville, Georgia Republicans are currently using for voting for Herschel Walker, along with Wisconsin Republicans for voting for Ron Johnson.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Oz finally moved to Pennsylvania?

Piffle. Residency is for little people.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s what you think of when you consider somebody a highly qualified candidate for the US Senate then your standards and expectations are absurdly low. What exactly has Fetterman achieved in his career to deserve this nomination? You may agree with his policies and you may dislike Oz but nobody objectively can say Fetterman is a person you’d want representing your interests in the Senate.

He’s the Lt Governor of the state of PA and was a successful mayor who helped revitalize an otherwise dying town.

He’s qualified to be a US Senator. He’s way more qualified than others who became Governor (Schwarzenegger), Senator (Franken), or President (Trump) with zero experience in public service.

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Anonymous wrote:It was painful to watch.

It was no where near as bad as these people on twitter are making it out to be
Yes he stumbled a little more than the average politician during a debate but all things considered having had a stroke not long ago he did really well

Nonetheless no I wouldn’t vote for him at this time. Having a stroke has physical and cognitive side effects. It is possible that with the passage of time both improve but it’s not a given. There is also quite a bit of follow up medical appts and monitoring. And once a person has a stroke they are far more likely to suffer another. He needs to put time and effort into healing and that is where his energy will eventually be needed. He can continue to push himself but he will likely burn out it worse suffer another stroke. I know someone who struggled with aphasia after a stroke. It took a few months to get back to a level where he didn’t have to struggle for the most common words and about a year out, he only struggled if he became very tired. It didn’t go away completely it just improved.

TFG lowered the bar on releasing medical records so not sure that matters anymore.

Members of Congress get cancer and go out for months for treatment & recovery….including multiple bouts of cancer. Steve Scalise was shot and out of commission for months. Tons of members of congress have serious medical conditions that require ongoing care, including Senator McConnell.

Fetterman will be fine and improve with time. He will have doctors in both DC and PA helping with ongoing speech therapy.

This is truly a nothingburger. The guy isn’t a vegetable, he can think and write. Debate and speech is mostly dead in the Senate.

Why are you comparing cancer or physical disabilities to mental impairment? Of course we aren't going to kick someone out of the Senate for physical injuries or disabilities. The truth is nobody, except perhaps him, knows his full condition, and the extent of actual damage. He may recover further, or he many not.

Because people in this thread are saying he will miss work due to treatments. It's a shoddy argument.

We already know a significant portion of members of Congress have mental health issues and old age impairments. It's not clear to me why Fetterman is judged differently, especially because he's still fairly young and can make a full recovery.

We have NO IDEA how much he will improve. He could have reached that already. He won't release his medical records or his prognosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was painful to watch.

It was no where near as bad as these people on twitter are making it out to be
Yes he stumbled a little more than the average politician during a debate but all things considered having had a stroke not long ago he did really well

Nonetheless no I wouldn’t vote for him at this time. Having a stroke has physical and cognitive side effects. It is possible that with the passage of time both improve but it’s not a given. There is also quite a bit of follow up medical appts and monitoring. And once a person has a stroke they are far more likely to suffer another. He needs to put time and effort into healing and that is where his energy will eventually be needed. He can continue to push himself but he will likely burn out it worse suffer another stroke. I know someone who struggled with aphasia after a stroke. It took a few months to get back to a level where he didn’t have to struggle for the most common words and about a year out, he only struggled if he became very tired. It didn’t go away completely it just improved.

Members of Congress get cancer and go out for months for treatment & recovery….including multiple bouts of cancer. Steve Scalise was shot and out of commission for months. Tons of members of congress have serious medical conditions that require ongoing care, including Senator McConnell.

Fetterman will be fine and improve with time. He will have doctors in both DC and PA helping with ongoing speech therapy.

This is truly a nothingburger. The guy isn’t a vegetable, he can think and write. Debate and speech is mostly dead in the Senate.

Why are you comparing cancer or physical disabilities to mental impairment? Of course we aren't going to kick someone out of the Senate for physical injuries or disabilities. The truth is nobody, except perhaps him, knows his full condition, and the extent of actual damage. He may recover further, or he many not.

Because people in this thread are saying he will miss work due to treatments. It's a shoddy argument.

We already know a significant portion of members of Congress have mental health issues and old age impairments. It's not clear to me why Fetterman is judged differently, especially because he's still fairly young and can make a full recovery.

We have NO IDEA how much he will improve. He could have reached that already. He won't release his medical records or his prognosis.

TFG lowered the bar on releasing medical records so not sure that matters anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was painful to watch.

It was no where near as bad as these people on twitter are making it out to be
Yes he stumbled a little more than the average politician during a debate but all things considered having had a stroke not long ago he did really well

Nonetheless no I wouldn’t vote for him at this time. Having a stroke has physical and cognitive side effects. It is possible that with the passage of time both improve but it’s not a given. There is also quite a bit of follow up medical appts and monitoring. And once a person has a stroke they are far more likely to suffer another. He needs to put time and effort into healing and that is where his energy will eventually be needed. He can continue to push himself but he will likely burn out it worse suffer another stroke. I know someone who struggled with aphasia after a stroke. It took a few months to get back to a level where he didn’t have to struggle for the most common words and about a year out, he only struggled if he became very tired. It didn’t go away completely it just improved.

Members of Congress get cancer and go out for months for treatment & recovery….including multiple bouts of cancer. Steve Scalise was shot and out of commission for months. Tons of members of congress have serious medical conditions that require ongoing care, including Senator McConnell.

Fetterman will be fine and improve with time. He will have doctors in both DC and PA helping with ongoing speech therapy.

This is truly a nothingburger. The guy isn’t a vegetable, he can think and write. Debate and speech is mostly dead in the Senate.

Why are you comparing cancer or physical disabilities to mental impairment? Of course we aren't going to kick someone out of the Senate for physical injuries or disabilities. The truth is nobody, except perhaps him, knows his full condition, and the extent of actual damage. He may recover further, or he many not.

Because people in this thread are saying he will miss work due to treatments. It's a shoddy argument.

We already know a significant portion of members of Congress have mental health issues and old age impairments. It's not clear to me why Fetterman is judged differently, especially because he's still fairly young and can make a full recovery.

We have NO IDEA how much he will improve. He could have reached that already. He won't release his medical records or his prognosis.

TFG lowered the bar on releasing medical records so not sure that matters anymore.

So it should matter or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that’s what you think of when you consider somebody a highly qualified candidate for the US Senate then your standards and expectations are absurdly low. What exactly has Fetterman achieved in his career to deserve this nomination? You may agree with his policies and you may dislike Oz but nobody objectively can say Fetterman is a person you’d want representing your interests in the Senate.

He’s the Lt Governor of the state of PA and was a successful mayor who helped revitalize an otherwise dying town.

He’s qualified to be a US Senator. He’s way more qualified than others who became Governor (Schwarzenegger), Senator (Franken), or President (Trump) with zero experience in public service.

Umm. Braddock was not revitalized. It’s continues to decline and crumble. It’s a wasteland.

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It’s not like communication is an important skill for a Senator . . . oh, wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not like communication is an important skill for a Senator . . . oh, wait.

I’ll take a speech impediment over dishonesty any day thank you very much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Debates mean nothing to the average voter. Nothing.

This was not an "average debate." This was a complete debacle. Fetterman's health is all anyone can think or talk about now. It's over for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that’s what you think of when you consider somebody a highly qualified candidate for the US Senate then your standards and expectations are absurdly low. What exactly has Fetterman achieved in his career to deserve this nomination? You may agree with his policies and you may dislike Oz but nobody objectively can say Fetterman is a person you’d want representing your interests in the Senate.

He’s the Lt Governor of the state of PA and was a successful mayor who helped revitalize an otherwise dying town.

He’s qualified to be a US Senator. He’s way more qualified than others who became Governor (Schwarzenegger), Senator (Franken), or President (Trump) with zero experience in public service.

Today only around 1,700 people remain, of which about 72 percent are Black. About one-third live below the federal poverty threshold.

“He first come in thinking that he was in charge of everything,” Brown said. “After a couple run-ins him and I had, he stopped coming to meetings. He should have been in all council meetings to break a tie in case there was a tie or if he had some input he could put input in, but he didn’t do that.”

(Brown is a former council president.)

Walking down the main avenue in Braddock, most buildings are in disrepair, marred by peeling paint, rotted wood and broken glass. Ferty’s Bar, which has closed, has a faded newspaper article in the window: “Braddock upgrades its look.” The faux brick facade is peeling off. The roof has collapsed, and the interior is a mess of splintered wood and debris.

Not everything spearheaded by Fetterman succeeded. He lured a celebrity chef to open a restaurant in a building he owned in 2017. Superior Motors won raves in Food & Wine and the New York Times. The menu included beef tartare and sashimi appetizers, while entrees ran in price from $22 to $29.
Kander, who helped raised money for the restaurant, said it offered 50 percent discount to residents and was intended to lure outsiders to Braddock and employ locals. Braddock Redux received grants for a communal oven and culinary classes. But Kander said the restaurant could not survive the pandemic and the departure of the chef four years later.
The restaurant also lacked a hometown customer base. John Paylor, who was riding down the street on a recent day in a motorized wheelchair, said the restaurant was too expensive for most Braddock residents, even with the discount.

You’re the mayor of a depressed town … I’m not paying no $50″ for dinner, he said. “That’s a week, four days of groceries. That’s how it was. It was like, if you ain’t on his side or go along with him then he have nothing to do with you.”
The restaurant’s closing in 2021 rankled many residents, who said it proved Fetterman was out of touch. Some critics even said he was using the community to advance his political career.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/26/mayor-trying-revive-crumbling-town-fetterman-shunned-local-government/