NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

Doesn’t sanctuary mean you want migrants? The $1B shoukd have been budgeted by NYC.

Sanctuary city generally means that undocumented migrants in custody are not released to ICE for deportation proceedings in compliance with a civil detainer request. The principle is that local law enforcement resources are to be put to better use, namely, addressing crime.

It’s also means there is a critical mass of the same ethnic illegal immigrants plus resources and systems in place - in the hospitals, in the public schools, church donations and friends & families who funded the migration are already there.
Like Los Angeles and Montgomery County. The two most requested final destinations of southern border illegals. Casa de Maryland is doing well.

Truthiness. This all sounded good to you when you made it up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

It’s trendy to declare an “emergency” because then federal taxpayer programs can bail you out, not your own mismanagement. Sadly it depletes funds for real emergencies.

The pro-illegal immigration NGOs are very well funded and are already massively helping the entire chain of migration and final destination in USA.

Big Immigration! Like Catholic Charities? And NYC doesn’t suddenly get federal taxpayer funding because they say “beetlejuice” three times. Where do you get this nonsense?

It’s common sense to declare a state of emergency to obtain more state and federal funds. This is America, 21st century.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

Doesn’t sanctuary mean you want migrants? The $1B shoukd have been budgeted by NYC.

Sanctuary city generally means that undocumented migrants in custody are not released to ICE for deportation proceedings in compliance with a civil detainer request. The principle is that local law enforcement resources are to be put to better use, namely, addressing crime.

It’s also means there is a critical mass of the same ethnic illegal immigrants plus resources and systems in place - in the hospitals, in the public schools, church donations and friends & families who funded the migration are already there.
Like Los Angeles and Montgomery County. The two most requested final destinations of southern border illegals. Casa de Maryland is doing well.

Truthiness. This all sounded good to you when you made it up?

It’s why enclaves and sanctuary cities exist. The ecosystem is the most supportive.
Illegals don’t come here to go set up shop in a new state and city. They go stuff in their friends house for a few years.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

It’s trendy to declare an “emergency” because then federal taxpayer programs can bail you out, not your own mismanagement. Sadly it depletes funds for real emergencies.

The pro-illegal immigration NGOs are very well funded and are already massively helping the entire chain of migration and final destination in USA.

Big Immigration! Like Catholic Charities? And NYC doesn’t suddenly get federal taxpayer funding because they say “beetlejuice” three times. Where do you get this nonsense?

It’s common sense to declare a state of emergency to obtain more state and federal funds. This is America, 21st century.

“Common sense” is not the same thing as an objective fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.”

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.”

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.

Malarkey. The term invasion was not understood to mean mass migration in 1787. It was understood to mean a hostile military force. Nice try.

And most importation of fentanyl (with scare quotes) occurs at border crossings and involved arrests of US nationals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

It’s trendy to declare an “emergency” because then federal taxpayer programs can bail you out, not your own mismanagement. Sadly it depletes funds for real emergencies.

The pro-illegal immigration NGOs are very well funded and are already massively helping the entire chain of migration and final destination in USA.

Big Immigration! Like Catholic Charities? And NYC doesn’t suddenly get federal taxpayer funding because they say “beetlejuice” three times. Where do you get this nonsense?

It’s common sense to declare a state of emergency to obtain more state and federal funds. This is America, 21st century.

“Common sense” is not the same thing as an objective fact.

It’s both for Use of Emergency Funds. Get yo’ money!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.”

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.

Malarkey. The term invasion was not understood to mean mass migration in 1787. It was understood to mean a hostile military force. Nice try.

And most importation of fentanyl (with scare quotes) occurs at border crossings and involved arrests of US nationals.

Ha!
I agree with pp. The crisis at the border definitely fits the term "invasion."

And, you know......this administration has taken "liberties" on all kinds of laws not intended to be interpreted as this administration interprets them. The forgiveness of student loans comes to mind......

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

So, what about the states that get them at the first place? Are they supposed to just keep them?

Yep. People like the PP don't care. Doesn't impact their daily lives or their schools and communities. They mock and deride those who are frustrated.

You really must live in an right wing echo chamber.

Many were actually settled in other states like MD. There are many threads on here about Casa de Maryland. Last I checked MD doesn't share a border with MX.

Also, CA has more illegal immigrants than TX or FL. NY already has a lot.
Also, if you really want our northern states to bear some of the burden, then send them to the midwest northern states. They have very few illegal immigrants.

Like I said, this is just a political stunt, and Desantis had zero authority to do what he did.

DP. You don't seem very bright. It's been pointed out repeatedly that migrants were sent to communities which pride themselves on being sanctuary cities, and welcoming to illegal immigrants. Of course those communities should bear some of the burden - they're the ones lecturing others on allowing illegal immigrants in! Midwest northern states don't declare themselves sanctuary states/cities - why would illegal immigrants be sent there?

In other words: those who sanctimoniously lecture the rest of us about taking in illegal immigrants can now put their money where their mouth is. The rest of us want nothing to do with it.

LOL.. CA, MD, NY -- all have a ton of illegal immigrants. They are already sharing some of the burden.

In any case, I'll repeat... Desantis had zero authority to go into TX and traffic those illegal immigrants. That is criminal. Imagine if some private citizen did that. That person would be considered a human trafficker, tried and imprisoned. But because the darling of the R party did it, that's ok, and "liberal cities deserve it".

Talk about not bright.

This "human trafficking" nonsense is so absurd. Here's the actual definition:

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. Exploitation of a minor for commercial sex is human trafficking, regardless of whether any form of force, fraud, or coercion was used.
https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/what-is-human-trafficking

The transport of migrants to MV does not fit this definition, genius. No one was compelled or coerced into providing any kind of labor, service, or sex acts. But do go on.

As for CA, MD, and NY - what do all three have in common? Hmmm. Think think think... could it be sanctuary cities?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys are misinterpreting and/or exaggerating the meaning of the Emergency declaration. It’s mostly a budget authority gimmick. Declaring an emergency gives the Mayor authority to spend and contract for programs and assistance that aren’t in the approved city budget. It’s something Mayors and Governors do.

This. I swear people fall for the Fox News crap way too easily. “Sanctuary city declares emergency over illegals!” Yes, yes indeed. So they can procure resources to help them without a 2-year bidding process. NY has been welcoming the stranger since 1800. It’s part of what makes New York great.

Can’t say the same for some hick desert town in Texas. The migrants may not be educated or sophisticated but they know better than to stay around the type of people that hunt them for sport and praise God on Sundays.

These hick desert towns have been taking care of these people for months if not years. And Adams didn’t state that he was declaring an emergency to release funds to help these new arrivals settle into his sanctuary city. Nope. He said that he is angry, the people of NYC are angry and they didn’t ask for this.
You and Adams, Bowser and Lightfoot need to wake up. No one asked for this, but Biden isn’t doing anything to stop it.
If you declare your city a sanctuary be prepared to give sanctuary. It’s not just a lawn sign anymore.

+ a million.
These people are the very definition of NIMBYs. Utter and complete hypocrites.

? NIMBY? Have you seen how many illegal immigrants are in NY even before this stunt?

Once again: NYC is a sanctuary city. That's entirely on them. Maybe start voting a different way if they're unhappy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s wonderful for the immigrants. New York is a sanctuary city so apparently is equipped to handle them, its the biggest city for jobs in the country, it’s already diverse with many languages. I’ve been to El Paso and it’s…not New York City. If I was looking to get into a country illegally and the borders were open and they offered to drive me to the equivalent of NYC yup that’s where I’d go!

But do the residents there have the welcome mat out?

NYC is largely liberal. Of course they do.

Yep. And if they don't, perhaps they need to rethink who and what they vote for (over and over again).
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.”

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.

Malarkey. The term invasion was not understood to mean mass migration in 1787. It was understood to mean a hostile military force. Nice try.

And most importation of fentanyl (with scare quotes) occurs at border crossings and involved arrests of US nationals.

invasion: an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

Sorry, millions here is an invasion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.”

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.

Malarkey. The term invasion was not understood to mean mass migration in 1787. It was understood to mean a hostile military force. Nice try.

And most importation of fentanyl (with scare quotes) occurs at border crossings and involved arrests of US nationals.

invasion: an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

Sorry, millions here is an invasion.

Oh I see you favor the Scalia-Alito originalist activism of pulling crap out of your own a**.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Biden's been flying and bussing illegals to NY for many months.

[Anonymous]

The border towns around the Rio Grande Valley had severe doctor shortages prior to Biden opening the gates to millions walking over the border.

No way can these small towns handle services for illegal immigrants nor should they be expected to.