NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Known as the guarantee clause, Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution states, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them from Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.”

Therefore, governors, attorneys general, and state legislatures must take emergency measures–beyond the scope of what has been attempted to this point–to follow through on the primary function of government: protecting its citizens.

The Constitution provides states an appropriate “self-help” remedy under Article I, Section 10, Clause 3, which stipulates that, “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay.

There can be no disputing that the influx of well over 1.3 million illegal immigrants this calendar year alone and thousands of pounds of fentanyl and other deadly narcotics, facilitated by the widespread human trafficking efforts of violent international drug cartels, constitutes an invasion of the southern border of the United States.

These cartels effectively have operational control over vast swaths of the southern border.


Malarkey. The term invasion was not understood to mean mass migration in 1787. It was understood to mean a hostile military force. Nice try.

And most importation of fentanyl (with scare quotes) occurs at border crossings and involved arrests of US nationals.


invasion: an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

Sorry, millions here is an invasion.



Oh I see you favor the Scalia-Alito originalist activism of pulling crap out of your own a**.


DP. You seem utterly confused about the definition of “invasion.” The PP is absolutely correct and was quoting from the dictionary. Here’s another dictionary definition for you: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/invasion.

Perhaps you should see someone for your anger issues.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


Why do the democrats in power want this to happen? What does Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, et al get in return? What’s the ultimate goal?
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


So, what about the states that get them at the first place? Are they supposed to just keep them?


Yep. People like the PP don't care. Doesn't impact their daily lives or their schools and communities. They mock and deride those who are frustrated.

You really must live in an right wing echo chamber.

Many were actually settled in other states like MD. There are many threads on here about Casa de Maryland. Last I checked MD doesn't share a border with MX.

Also, CA has more illegal immigrants than TX or FL. NY already has a lot.
Also, if you really want our northern states to bear some of the burden, then send them to the midwest northern states. They have very few illegal immigrants.

Like I said, this is just a political stunt, and Desantis had zero authority to do what he did.


DP. You don't seem very bright. It's been pointed out repeatedly that migrants were sent to communities which pride themselves on being sanctuary cities, and welcoming to illegal immigrants. Of course those communities should bear some of the burden - they're the ones lecturing others on allowing illegal immigrants in! Midwest northern states don't declare themselves sanctuary states/cities - why would illegal immigrants be sent there?

In other words: those who sanctimoniously lecture the rest of us about taking in illegal immigrants can now put their money where their mouth is. The rest of us want nothing to do with it.

LOL.. CA, MD, NY -- all have a ton of illegal immigrants. They are already sharing some of the burden.

In any case, I'll repeat... Desantis had zero authority to go into TX and traffic those illegal immigrants. That is criminal. Imagine if some private citizen did that. That person would be considered a human trafficker, tried and imprisoned. But because the darling of the R party did it, that's ok, and "liberal cities deserve it".

Talk about not bright.


This "human trafficking" nonsense is so absurd. Here's the actual definition:

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. Exploitation of a minor for commercial sex is human trafficking, regardless of whether any form of force, fraud, or coercion was used.
https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/what-is-human-trafficking

The transport of migrants to MV does not fit this definition, genius. No one was compelled or coerced into providing any kind of labor, service, or sex acts. But do go on.

As for CA, MD, and NY - what do all three have in common? Hmmm. Think think think... could it be sanctuary cities?


Not quite. Some have been forced to be drug mules for example.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/


Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.
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As for CA, MD, and NY - what do all three have in common? Hmmm. Think think think... could it be sanctuary cities?


No genius. What they have in common is lots of jobs. You think illegal immigrants only started going to CA and NY because of "sanctuary" policies? Nope.

I lived in Socal for 20+ years back in the 70s/80s/90s.. Trust me.. there were a lot of illegal immigrants back then, too, at a time when Rs were governors of CA. I even voted for a few of them. You are saying that those R governors had sanctuary policies? I don't think so.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/


Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/


Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.


When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


People in border towns chose to live on the border. At least half of them have jobs related to immigration or cross-border trade.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.


No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?


Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?


I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?



DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.


Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.


I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/


Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.


When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Biden's been flying and bussing illegals to NY for many months.


Another lie.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


So, what about the states that get them at the first place? Are they supposed to just keep them?


Yep. People like the PP don't care. Doesn't impact their daily lives or their schools and communities. They mock and deride those who are frustrated.

You really must live in an right wing echo chamber.

Many were actually settled in other states like MD. There are many threads on here about Casa de Maryland. Last I checked MD doesn't share a border with MX.

Also, CA has more illegal immigrants than TX or FL. NY already has a lot.
Also, if you really want our northern states to bear some of the burden, then send them to the midwest northern states. They have very few illegal immigrants.

Like I said, this is just a political stunt, and Desantis had zero authority to do what he did.


DP. You don't seem very bright. It's been pointed out repeatedly that migrants were sent to communities which pride themselves on being sanctuary cities, and welcoming to illegal immigrants. Of course those communities should bear some of the burden - they're the ones lecturing others on allowing illegal immigrants in! Midwest northern states don't declare themselves sanctuary states/cities - why would illegal immigrants be sent there?

In other words: those who sanctimoniously lecture the rest of us about taking in illegal immigrants can now put their money where their mouth is. The rest of us want nothing to do with it.

LOL.. CA, MD, NY -- all have a ton of illegal immigrants. They are already sharing some of the burden.

In any case, I'll repeat... Desantis had zero authority to go into TX and traffic those illegal immigrants. That is criminal. Imagine if some private citizen did that. That person would be considered a human trafficker, tried and imprisoned. But because the darling of the R party did it, that's ok, and "liberal cities deserve it".

Talk about not bright.


This "human trafficking" nonsense is so absurd. Here's the actual definition:

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. Exploitation of a minor for commercial sex is human trafficking, regardless of whether any form of force, fraud, or coercion was used.
https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/what-is-human-trafficking

The transport of migrants to MV does not fit this definition, genius. No one was compelled or coerced into providing any kind of labor, service, or sex acts. But do go on.

As for CA, MD, and NY - what do all three have in common? Hmmm. Think think think... could it be sanctuary cities?


You might want to familiarize yourself with the difference between a state and a city before offering an opinion on any topic.
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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.


But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.


Biden's been flying and bussing illegals to NY for many months.


Another lie.

DP.. even if he has, as POTUS, he has authority to do that. Desantis did not. #lawandorder
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This "human trafficking" nonsense is so absurd. Here's the actual definition:

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological. Exploitation of a minor for commercial sex is human trafficking, regardless of whether any form of force, fraud, or coercion was used.
https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/what-is-human-trafficking

The transport of migrants to MV does not fit this definition, genius. No one was compelled or coerced into providing any kind of labor, service, or sex acts. But do go on.

As for CA, MD, and NY - what do all three have in common? Hmmm. Think think think... could it be sanctuary cities?

People who hire the the trucks with full knowledge of the cargo, and play no other part in human trafficking, still get convicted for human trafficking.

Again, Desantis had ZERO authority to do what he did. He had no authority to hire a charter plane IN TX to move people IN TX to another state, irrespective of whether NYC is a sanctuary city, or not.
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