If you vote Republican, and your children are killed in a school shooting...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

IMO, the past couple of years of demonizing cops has left us with the cowards. The best cops have left the field and anybody with half a brain isn't interested in joining either.

Demonizing cops and defunding the police movements were clearly Democrat's agenda at least then, probably not so much now. If this is the end result we get, then couldn't Republicans turn it around and start blaming Democrats for the increased casualties caused by paralyzing the cops? I am just playing purely logical debates here. They could and they will and they are already doing it. My personal opinion is that both parties using this for political gain is tone deaf.

No wonder Republicans get so twisted. We wanted accountability for the police. Turns out we were correct to demand that since the police massively failed again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

IMO, the past couple of years of demonizing cops has left us with the cowards. The best cops have left the field and anybody with half a brain isn't interested in joining either.

Demonizing cops and defunding the police movements were clearly Democrat's agenda at least then, probably not so much now. If this is the end result we get, then couldn't Republicans turn it around and start blaming Democrats for the increased casualties caused by paralyzing the cops? I am just playing purely logical debates here. They could and they will and they are already doing it. My personal opinion is that both parties using this for political gain is tone deaf.

No wonder Republicans get so twisted. We wanted accountability for the police. Turns out we were correct to demand that since the police massively failed again.

If police massively fails, what should we do, dismantle them?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to be begging people that if they can't vote for a Democrat, at least don't vote for a Republican and abstain from voting this cycle

I vote for whoever is least scary and not trying to drastically change the way we live, think, raise our kids. Both choices are pretty awful, to be honest, if we go down partisan lines. But everyone votes for what matters to them personally at the end of the day. Asking people to abstain regardless how they vote is just messed up. Gross hypocrisy.

Np- if your vote means high powered rifles in the hands of the mentally ill, we don’t need your vote.
Stay home. That’s not hypocrisy, that’s sanity.

I will make my decision based on my opinions when the time comes and I will cast my vote based on my decisions. They may or may not align with yours, but this is irrelevant. You have no power to stop people from voting. You can try to influence people to vote your way, but you are doing a piss poor job at it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to be begging people that if they can't vote for a Democrat, at least don't vote for a Republican and abstain from voting this cycle

I vote for whoever is least scary and not trying to drastically change the way we live, think, raise our kids. Both choices are pretty awful, to be honest, if we go down partisan lines. But everyone votes for what matters to them personally at the end of the day. Asking people to abstain regardless how they vote is just messed up. Gross hypocrisy.

Np- if your vote means high powered rifles in the hands of the mentally ill, we don’t need your vote.
Stay home. That’s not hypocrisy, that’s sanity.

I will make my decision based on my opinions when the time comes and I will cast my vote based on my decisions. They may or may not align with yours, but this is irrelevant. You have no power to stop people from voting. You can try to influence people to vote your way, but you are doing a piss poor job at it

Seriously. Reading some of these unhinged posts makes me want to run in the opposite direction. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

Have you read this thread??? I’m having trouble believing you are a real person.

Literally nothing said before this post contradicts this. Nothing matters more to republicans than party loyalty and identity. Dead children, be damned.

One thing republicans have in common is that they can’t understand anything until they go through it themselves. They can’t tolerate abortion until their daughter needs one. They can’t stand interracial marriage until their niece marries a “nice black guy”. Healthcare isn’t a right until they lose their insurance. Unemployment is an “entitlement” until they lose their jobs. Everyone else is lazy, irresponsible, and looking for a handout, but they and their families are deserving and they are an exception.

Real person sick of the BS. Republicans support domestic terrorism. No decent person who understands government still supports them.

This is hyperbole, but essentially the righteousness you are referring to is a thing, it's easy to blame others and be less empathetic until it happens to you. But same can be said about Democrats, no? Most highly polarized opinions are lacking empathy by definition, because real life always has fine lines and gray zones.

No, the same can not be said about Democrats. Governing requires compromise, something the republicans won’t ever do. Democrats compromise so much, their base gets angry. Republicans so hate compromise that as soon as democrats agree to give in on a matter, the republicans decide that’s not what want anymore and move the goal posts. It’s all about obstruction. I’m a high tax bracket liberal who’s never had an abortion, never needed unemployment, never been without healthcare, never been homeless, and yet, because I’m educated and not selfish or driven by a religion that has warped my sense of morality, I understand that people’s lives, experiences, resources, and abilities vary. I understand that civilized society requires both a government and taxes. I understand that government can function well when we elect public servants, not con artists. The modern republican party wants kleptocracy and theocracy and I do not have to “understand their perspective” about destroying democracy, supporting domestic terrorism, or taking away citizen’s rights. Just like I do not have to respect or “understand” ISIS’s point of view. Or Putin’s. I will not condone that sick philosophy in my country either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to be begging people that if they can't vote for a Democrat, at least don't vote for a Republican and abstain from voting this cycle

I vote for whoever is least scary and not trying to drastically change the way we live, think, raise our kids. Both choices are pretty awful, to be honest, if we go down partisan lines. But everyone votes for what matters to them personally at the end of the day. Asking people to abstain regardless how they vote is just messed up. Gross hypocrisy.

Np- if your vote means high powered rifles in the hands of the mentally ill, we don’t need your vote.
Stay home. That’s not hypocrisy, that’s sanity.

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If you’re going to vote for the GOP, just stay home. You’re ruining lives and you’re ruining America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to be begging people that if they can't vote for a Democrat, at least don't vote for a Republican and abstain from voting this cycle

I vote for whoever is least scary and not trying to drastically change the way we live, think, raise our kids. Both choices are pretty awful, to be honest, if we go down partisan lines. But everyone votes for what matters to them personally at the end of the day. Asking people to abstain regardless how they vote is just messed up. Gross hypocrisy.

Np- if your vote means high powered rifles in the hands of the mentally ill, we don’t need your vote.
Stay home. That’s not hypocrisy, that’s sanity.

I will make my decision based on my opinions when the time comes and I will cast my vote based on my decisions. They may or may not align with yours, but this is irrelevant. You have no power to stop people from voting. You can try to influence people to vote your way, but you are doing a piss poor job at it

You can’t be persuaded. Honestly I’m just hoping for a big wave of Covid to kill more of you.
Night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The posters on this thread are clueless and most of you have no real understanding of what Republicans believe or why they vote the way they do.
In fact, this entire site this past week has been full of angry insults and hateful rhetoric aimed at Republicans.

My first thought when I read some of the hate spewing on here is to wonder if the poster has children. And, if she/he does, I wonder if that poster speaks about other people in front of her children the way she writes about them on sites like this.
If so, you are part of the problem. Your children are watching and listening. They hear your hate and your insults toward others. They are learning from you that there are people who are not to be valued - simply because they disagree with you.
You are not teaching them kindness. You are not teaching them how to have a useful discussion with others. You are simply spewing hate. This is what they are learning from you.

Passing more laws may make you feel good, but it will NOT solve the problem. Hell, many of our current laws are not even enforced. I read over and over how gun crimes by felons are dismissed through a plea deal or because of "restorative justice."
We could ban guns tomorrow, and we will still likely have another school shooting unless we do something that actually makes a difference.

If you have been paying attention, you know that many, many things went wrong with this crime. From ignoring the red flags on the part of the shooter to the open door at the school, to the lack of a security guard present. And, that is just the start.

I don't know all the answers, but I do know that simply passing a law in the heat of a moment will not cause change. There are always going to be evil people who have no value for life. We need to get better at identifying these people, learn what causes them to be the way they are, and deal with them BEFORE they act on their evil. We also need to make schools more secure and learn from everything that went wrong here.

You cannot teach kindness to a rattle snake, just as you cannot teach kindness to a Republican.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Really? Because you are an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:why would you continue to vote for politicians that won't pass gun laws and won't support bills that provide for mental health services?
I truly want to know 1) Can you put yourself in the shoes of parents whose children have been murdered in school by legally purchased assault rifles? and 2) If even the horrifying nightmare of your own babies dying would lead to connect the dots

I am not a troll. I want to know what your reasoning behind putting gun supporters in office are.

Why don’t we just pass laws that make murder illegal regardless of the method?

Hello! There ready is a law making murder illegal. In fact, there is no statute of limitations on murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Are these people being pushed out of bed? No. People have the option of installing a railing to keep them in bed if this is an important issue to them.

It’s not just school shootings. Guns need to be regulated.

Please be real. The chances of being in a school shooting are lower than dying from a car or bus crash to or from school. That does not mean ignore it. But please keep in perspective.

Tell this to the families of the 21 murdered in Texas. It should bring them so much comfort.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

Have you read this thread??? I’m having trouble believing you are a real person.

Literally nothing said before this post contradicts this. Nothing matters more to republicans than party loyalty and identity. Dead children, be damned.

One thing republicans have in common is that they can’t understand anything until they go through it themselves. They can’t tolerate abortion until their daughter needs one. They can’t stand interracial marriage until their niece marries a “nice black guy”. Healthcare isn’t a right until they lose their insurance. Unemployment is an “entitlement” until they lose their jobs. Everyone else is lazy, irresponsible, and looking for a handout, but they and their families are deserving and they are an exception.

Real person sick of the BS. Republicans support domestic terrorism. No decent person who understands government still supports them.

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Perhaps some of these right wingers can serve oranges to their kids this weekend and subtly hold an orange up to their child’s head or trunk. Any “MoDeRaTeS” who read this next paragraph can too. See how big an orange is next to your child’s tiny, fragile body.

“The injury along the path of the bullet from an AR-15 is vastly different from a low-velocity handgun injury. The bullet from an AR-15 passes through the body like a cigarette boat traveling at maximum speed through a tiny canal. The tissue next to the bullet is elastic—moving away from the bullet like waves of water displaced by the boat—and then returns and settles back. This process is called cavitation; it leaves the displaced tissue damaged or killed. The high-velocity bullet causes a swath of tissue damage that extends several inches from its path. It does not have to actually hit an artery to damage it and cause catastrophic bleeding. Exit wounds can be the size of an orange.” https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/

I believe that one child was decapitated.

[Anonymous]

HMM, thinking of my parents, who I believe may actually have buried guns on their property,

They think that at some point the gubmint or libruls or both are going to "come for them" and guns will be necessary for good people like themselves to defend themselves. Kinda like David Koresh (see how well that worked out.).

I think they feel bad about the slaughtered kids but they think that's on the individuals who did it, not guns in general.

More tellingly, what did Rush Limbaugh say was a good reason for people to be able to have guns after Sandy Hook? That is probably what my mom and dad believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

Bull hockey,! The shooter was standing up, kids on floor. You break window in door and take a kill sotbstbhis head! They were cowards! Stop making excuses for these despicable men who are as guilty as the shooter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HMM, thinking of my parents, who I believe may actually have buried guns on their property,

They think that at some point the gubmint or libruls or both are going to "come for them" and guns will be necessary for good people like themselves to defend themselves. Kinda like David Koresh (see how well that worked out.).

I think they feel bad about the slaughtered kids but they think that's on the individuals who did it, not guns in general.

More tellingly, what did Rush Limbaugh say was a good reason for people to be able to have guns after Sandy Hook? That is probably what my mom and dad believe.

Make sure to tell them you’ve heard they are using voter registration rolls to “track” them. They should avoid voting.
Do your part.