If you vote Republican, and your children are killed in a school shooting...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread called “are republicans in a death cult?” about republicans mocking and then dying of COVID. This reminds me of the same thing. There’s a real streak of cruelty and selfishness in many Americans. They don’t care if it’s not their kid. They have trouble even imagining that or showing any empathy.

Republicans lack empathy and imagination.
The only scenarios they can envision are
sluts aborting cherubic, healthy babies
And heroic men saving the day with an assault weapon.

LOL, I would love to read similar hyperbolic tirade only from the other side, let me try:

Democrats lack empathy and imagination.
The only scenarios they can envision are
women subjugated like in Handmaid's Tale
And unhinged men with assault rifles skulking around like in the old days of Wild Wild West

Lol you suck at analogies. Lol!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You must have missed all the mass murders by cartels in Mexico, which has some of the most strict gun laws out there. Criminals will always get the guns they want, OP. Gun control is not the answer.

You are an idiot. I don't know what to say. Please go back to school, and I pray that you develop some critical thinking skills.

So here's the thing. I actually live in Mexico right now so I understand this dynamic probably better than anyone here. In fact I'll double down: gun control is definitely not the answer.

The problem is Mexico’s neighbor has zero gun regulation.

+1
My god, the myopia.

Fake news. https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexicos-soaring-murder-rate-proves-gun-control-is-deadly-11571696723

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was another thread called “are republicans in a death cult?” about republicans mocking and then dying of COVID. This reminds me of the same thing. There’s a real streak of cruelty and selfishness in many Americans. They don’t care if it’s not their kid. They have trouble even imagining that or showing any empathy.

Republicans lack empathy and imagination.
The only scenarios they can envision are
sluts aborting cherubic, healthy babies
And heroic men saving the day with an assault weapon.

LOL, I would love to read similar hyperbolic tirade only from the other side, let me try:

Democrats lack empathy and imagination.
The only scenarios they can envision are
women subjugated like in Handmaid's Tale
And unhinged men with assault rifles skulking around like in the old days of Wild Wild West

Lol you suck at analogies. Lol!

You are right actually, when I read it I realized that I got the semantics wrong, my bad. Totally admit it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

IMO, the past couple of years of demonizing cops has left us with the cowards. The best cops have left the field and anybody with half a brain isn't interested in joining either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Are these people being pushed out of bed? No. People have the option of installing a railing to keep them in bed if this is an important issue to them.

It’s not just school shootings. Guns need to be regulated.

Please be real. The chances of being in a school shooting are lower than dying from a car or bus crash to or from school. That does not mean ignore it. But please keep in perspective.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children in the US PP. this is not JUST about school shootings. This is about reducing the number of guns out there to protect kids everywhere, not just at school.

Yes, don’t let them narrow the issue to “just” school shootings. This is so much bigger than that. Gun violence is a leading cause of death among young children.

Can you please provide the link to reputable statistics source which also includes health related issues, drownings and car accidents. I am not negating, I want to see the proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today, Uvalde has taught us that even police officers with guns aren't able to protect your children. Even when they have backup. And lots of guns.
And by the way, the Parkland officer ran away from the school too.
These police officers are probably men who have grown up believing that they would be able to shoot the bad guys. Ha.

It would appear that cowardice on their part was a major factor.

This is also probably related to the fear of shooting kids accidentally which would make them face trials potentially. So, yeah, it's cowardice, but not necessarily because they were afraid to be shot, they were way better equipped than unarmed parents rushing into the building. It's because they were afraid to be facing legal scrutiny of their actions if they were to cause the death of a child directly vs. indirectly when shooter kills them. Yeah, I know, grasping at straws here.

IMO, the past couple of years of demonizing cops has left us with the cowards. The best cops have left the field and anybody with half a brain isn't interested in joining either.

Demonizing cops and defunding the police movements were clearly Democrat's agenda at least then, probably not so much now. If this is the end result we get, then couldn't Republicans turn it around and start blaming Democrats for the increased casualties caused by paralyzing the cops? I am just playing purely logical debates here. They could and they will and they are already doing it. My personal opinion is that both parties using this for political gain is tone deaf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Are these people being pushed out of bed? No. People have the option of installing a railing to keep them in bed if this is an important issue to them.

It’s not just school shootings. Guns need to be regulated.

Please be real. The chances of being in a school shooting are lower than dying from a car or bus crash to or from school. That does not mean ignore it. But please keep in perspective.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children in the US PP. this is not JUST about school shootings. This is about reducing the number of guns out there to protect kids everywhere, not just at school.

Yes, don’t let them narrow the issue to “just” school shootings. This is so much bigger than that. Gun violence is a leading cause of death among young children.

Can you please provide the link to reputable statistics source which also includes health related issues, drownings and car accidents. I am not negating, I want to see the proof.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/guns-leading-cause-death-children-cdc

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

Have you read this thread??? I’m having trouble believing you are a real person.

Literally nothing said before this post contradicts this. Nothing matters more to republicans than party loyalty and identity. Dead children, be damned.

One thing republicans have in common is that they can’t understand anything until they go through it themselves. They can’t tolerate abortion until their daughter needs one. They can’t stand interracial marriage until their niece marries a “nice black guy”. Healthcare isn’t a right until they lose their insurance. Unemployment is an “entitlement” until they lose their jobs. Everyone else is lazy, irresponsible, and looking for a handout, but they and their families are deserving and they are an exception.

Real person sick of the BS. Republicans support domestic terrorism. No decent person who understands government still supports them.

This is hyperbole, but essentially the righteousness you are referring to is a thing, it's easy to blame others and be less empathetic until it happens to you. But same can be said about Democrats, no? Most highly polarized opinions are lacking empathy by definition, because real life always has fine lines and gray zones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Are these people being pushed out of bed? No. People have the option of installing a railing to keep them in bed if this is an important issue to them.

It’s not just school shootings. Guns need to be regulated.

Please be real. The chances of being in a school shooting are lower than dying from a car or bus crash to or from school. That does not mean ignore it. But please keep in perspective.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children in the US PP. this is not JUST about school shootings. This is about reducing the number of guns out there to protect kids everywhere, not just at school.

Yes, don’t let them narrow the issue to “just” school shootings. This is so much bigger than that. Gun violence is a leading cause of death among young children.

Can you please provide the link to reputable statistics source which also includes health related issues, drownings and car accidents. I am not negating, I want to see the proof.

Here’s a starter:

https://www.vox.com/23141259/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-child-family-social-policy

“Guns now kill more kids than car accidents, in part because, through design changes and new regulations, cars have gotten safer while guns have only become more accessible and lethal.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

Have you read this thread??? I’m having trouble believing you are a real person.

Literally nothing said before this post contradicts this. Nothing matters more to republicans than party loyalty and identity. Dead children, be damned.

One thing republicans have in common is that they can’t understand anything until they go through it themselves. They can’t tolerate abortion until their daughter needs one. They can’t stand interracial marriage until their niece marries a “nice black guy”. Healthcare isn’t a right until they lose their insurance. Unemployment is an “entitlement” until they lose their jobs. Everyone else is lazy, irresponsible, and looking for a handout, but they and their families are deserving and they are an exception.

Real person sick of the BS. Republicans support domestic terrorism. No decent person who understands government still supports them.

This is hyperbole, but essentially the righteousness you are referring to is a thing, it's easy to blame others and be less empathetic until it happens to you. But same can be said about Democrats, no? Most highly polarized opinions are lacking empathy by definition, because real life always has fine lines and gray zones.

No, the same thing cannot be said of democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality check: more people die annually from falling out of bed than from school shootings. If we really want to save lives, we can save more lives with less effort than by trying to reduce school shootings. Yes, school shootings are emotional events (and many people are bad at math), but that doesn't mean that passing reactionary legislation is the best way to save lives in the US.

- Not a Republican

Are these people being pushed out of bed? No. People have the option of installing a railing to keep them in bed if this is an important issue to them.

It’s not just school shootings. Guns need to be regulated.

Please be real. The chances of being in a school shooting are lower than dying from a car or bus crash to or from school. That does not mean ignore it. But please keep in perspective.

Guns are the leading cause of death for children in the US PP. this is not JUST about school shootings. This is about reducing the number of guns out there to protect kids everywhere, not just at school.

Yes, don’t let them narrow the issue to “just” school shootings. This is so much bigger than that. Gun violence is a leading cause of death among young children.

Can you please provide the link to reputable statistics source which also includes health related issues, drownings and car accidents. I am not negating, I want to see the proof.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/guns-leading-cause-death-children-cdc

You know where they are going with this, right? They are going to blame the pandemic response on the increase of homicides and suicides that dramatically jumped in 2020. They will be blaming Democrats for advocating the measures that led to despair causing increase in gun deaths. In other words, they won't blame guns.

I bolded the parts for you that would help their rhetoric that it's not guns themselves, but something that happened in 2020, and also deaths were intentional, not accidents, which indicates rise in crime and mental health crisis


Quote below:

Firearms were the leading cause of death for U.S. children and adolescents for the first time in 2020, the most recent year with data available.

While studies in 2016 found that motor vehicle accidents surpassed gun deaths for children, a roughly 30% spike in the latter between 2019 and 2020 made firearms the leading cause of death, according to an analysis of CDC data published in the New England Journal of Medicine in late April.

The CDC reported 4,368 child deaths by gunfire in 2020, the vast majority of which were homicides, followed by suicides. Unintentional gun deaths and deaths where a motive could not be determined accounted for a very small portion of the data.

[Anonymous]

“your dead kids don’t trump my constitutional rights.” - Joe the Plumber.

Just beautiful, stand up people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

Have you read this thread??? I’m having trouble believing you are a real person.

Literally nothing said before this post contradicts this. Nothing matters more to republicans than party loyalty and identity. Dead children, be damned.

One thing republicans have in common is that they can’t understand anything until they go through it themselves. They can’t tolerate abortion until their daughter needs one. They can’t stand interracial marriage until their niece marries a “nice black guy”. Healthcare isn’t a right until they lose their insurance. Unemployment is an “entitlement” until they lose their jobs. Everyone else is lazy, irresponsible, and looking for a handout, but they and their families are deserving and they are an exception.

Real person sick of the BS. Republicans support domestic terrorism. No decent person who understands government still supports them.

This is hyperbole, but essentially the righteousness you are referring to is a thing, it's easy to blame others and be less empathetic until it happens to you. But same can be said about Democrats, no? Most highly polarized opinions are lacking empathy by definition, because real life always has fine lines and gray zones.

No, the same thing cannot be said of democrats.

You lack imagination. Your opponents have plenty of it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don’t have a “reasoning”. Their daddy was a Republican, so they are Republicans. They believe republicans are the party of the hardworking white man and ladylike white woman. Their identity is wrapped in that vision and they mostly have no clue what these politicians do or don’t do for people like them. They think Democrats are moochers. They don’t believe in government, so they don’t actually expect politicians to do anything. They *think* it only hurts “those moochers”. Anyone who still votes Republican is either ignorant or crazy- they have zero policies and don’t give a crap about public service.

I'm wondering how many hundreds of times you've posted this garbage all over the forum. You're a nonsense-spewing broken record.