Parents bullied the SBOE member

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

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Anonymous wrote:"We should continue to mask so as not to disrupt our summer in Europe"

Sigh, I just can't with you people

See, I love stuff like that. It helps me disengage from a thread because it's a troll putting our her calling card.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

Exactly. A $2.96 BILLION budget for MCPS.

And a student gets a full vote on the BOE. That is absolutely nuts.

DCUM: OMG! A kid votes on the BoE!
DCUM: The BoE is a hollow shell manipulated by the super.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

Exactly. A $2.96 BILLION budget for MCPS.

And a student gets a full vote on the BOE. That is absolutely nuts.

DCUM: OMG! A kid votes on the BoE!
DCUM: The BoE is a hollow shell manipulated by the super.

Also, the super is run by a shadow cabal known as the evil teachers union who want nothing more than to see kids suffer while indoctrinating them.

These DCUM folk seem pretty stable!

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

Alls forgiven. Everyone gets testy these days.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

All of those are first world problems. You're welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward. The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it. If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease. There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about. As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward. The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it. If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease. There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about. As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

Not one single, coherent, cogent point was made here. What kind of rant...

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward. The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it. If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease. There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about. As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

Not one single, coherent, cogent point was made here. What kind of rant...

Oh sorry. I'll make them line items to help your comprehension. Also, each item is a direct response to PP's complaints.

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward.

The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it.

If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease.

There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about.

As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

In other words, most of the problems PP complained about are either self-manufactured or are very small but have bene amplified by the media PP consumes.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

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OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward. The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it. If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease. There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about. As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

Not one single, coherent, cogent point was made here. What kind of rant...

Oh sorry. I'll make them line items to help your comprehension. Also, each item is a direct response to PP's complaints.

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward.

The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it.

If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease.

There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about.

As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

In other words, most of the problems PP complained about are either self-manufactured or are very small but have bene amplified by the media PP consumes.

“Not much actual racism?” You sound like a certifiable lunatic who has no basis in reality. Enjoy your view from privileged ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

As someone who routinely reads the Tweens/Teens board, I see a lot more mixed sentiment about the capacity of 18 years -- and what to do about it -- then you acknowledge here.

OK - that's what you've read. I'm a recent MCPS alum and I've lived it. I've seen my peers and I protest gun violence, put together award-winning magazines, and make actionable changes towards racial equity and justice. Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation, and, again, they need to be fully heard. The SMOB, especially our current one, plays a critical role in that.

Your statement here proves that children should not have an actual vote in matters as important as education. Your lack of history knowledge and critical thinking lead you to say "Kids today go through way more pressure than any other generation" which is simply absurd. Millennials had Sept 11th and everything that followed, Gen Xers had the constant threat of nuclear war, Boomers had Viet Nam, the Silent Generation had WWII and the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation had WWI and the Flu pandemic, and so on. At your age, your worldview is so myopic that you can't comprehend all the moving parts in an organization as large and complicated as a school system with a $3 billion budget.

+1 million

OMG, stop +1ing your own comments. And the whole, "I had to walk 500 miles to school when I was your age" doesn't work anymore. Come up with a new argument. You know what this generation faces that you didn't face? Crushing higher education debt, the inability to buy a home, global warming, post-pandemic crap and cluelesss numbnuts like you who helped create this situation.

Thank you!! I admit it was bad to compare pain and I apologize (huge DCUM move admitting that I was wrong), but think about all of the previous factors above plus a pandemic, mental health, racism, a 24/7 news cycle ....

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward. The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it. If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease. There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about. As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

Not one single, coherent, cogent point was made here. What kind of rant...

Oh sorry. I'll make them line items to help your comprehension. Also, each item is a direct response to PP's complaints.

You admitted you were wrong which is great but then you kept digging afterward.

The pandemic sucked but hardly anyone of school age died from it.

If you want to improve your mental health, avoid social media like it was a deadly disease.

There's not much actual racism these days. The demand far outweighs the supply. The perceptiom of rampant racism is good for the far-left and for corporations to virtue signal instead of you know, raising wages. But, for the most part, there's not actually much to worry about.

As for the 24 hour news cycle, see my comment about social media. You'll be much much happier.

In other words, most of the problems PP complained about are either self-manufactured or are very small but have bene amplified by the media PP consumes.

Good luck in the real world dismissing everything just because you haven't faced it and it doesn't align perfectly with your agenda. I don't know what gives you the gumption to "spell it out" in a way that "help(s) my comprehension" (or essentially, talk down to people). Just because school aged kids "didn't die from it" (which a substantial amount unfortunately did), doesn't mean they weren't living in inter-generational households where their grandparents, etc. may have passed. As a Black person in this country, I face outright and subtle racism on a daily basis. Corporations speaking on it doesn't mean they're "far-left". But have fun in your own fantasy world. Ridiculous.

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Good luck in the real world dismissing everything just because you haven't faced it and it doesn't align perfectly with your agenda. I don't know what gives you the gumption to "spell it out" in a way that "help(s) my comprehension" (or essentially, talk down to people). Just because school aged kids "didn't die from it" (which a substantial amount unfortunately did), doesn't mean they weren't living in inter-generational households where their grandparents, etc. may have passed. As a Black person in this country, I face outright and subtle racism on a daily basis. Corporations speaking on it doesn't mean they're "far-left". But have fun in your own fantasy world. Ridiculous.

I do quite well in the real world because I have not let catastrophization cloud my judgement. All of the problems that PP listed are relatively minor. But with far left, far right, and social media cosumption as high as it is these days, it's little wonder PP feels like he does. There's a quick but, perhaps, not so easy fix: turn it off. Just walk away from the insanity.

My only agenda is for objective truth to be society's measuring stick instead of "lived experience."

And I'm sorry for any outright racism you've faced. That sucks and no one should be subject to that. But it is like I said there very little actual racism these days. It's why so much is being manufactured. Without racism, Dems would have much to work with in terms of solutions. And I'm a Dem by the way. I'm just a normal Dem who wishes my party hadn't abandoned class issues (what most claims of racism cloak). And that's on purpose and was the reason I mentioned corporations pretending to be woke. It is much cheaper to have your social media department throw out a BLM hashtag and hire a diversity officer then to pay all of their workers an extra $3 an hour. But keep up with the identity politics. Ridiculous.

As for why I spelled it out, you said "Not one single, coherent, cogent point was made here." That led me to believe that you did not understand what I wrote. The two most likely reasons for that were that either I did not write it clearly or you simply didn't understand it. I am only in control of one of those things so I fixed what I wrote. You're welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

Sorry, children are children. They can't legally contract to do anything. For a reason. Their frontal lobes aren't fully developed until they are 25. They have the arrogance and self-centeredness that's developmentally appropriate and critical developing their own identity. But it does no real good for group management decisions that impact many different types of people.

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Anonymous wrote:These parents are despicable. Who does this?!

The same people that post a lot of their right-wing propaganda on this board.

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

+1

Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.

No, she can talk at every board meeting. That's a voice. Children should not get to make policy. Adults do know better than children. Adults can become better informed adults by listening to children. But they are still children. Adults should be making the decisions.

Is this how your family functions? I listen to my kids, but I am the one who makes the decisions and accepts responsibility.

"Is this how your family functions?" I see that DCUM posters still haven't learned respect but will always gaslight, etc. She's literally 18 ... there's no point of talking but then not being able to take action. These "children" you derisively refer to, many times, make smarter and more inclusive decisions than adults. Adults don't always know what they're doing, and I'm sorry for those children who have to deal with you. It's not "children are the future - as long as they know their place". These decisions made at the table affect them everyday.

Sorry, children are children. They can't legally contract to do anything. For a reason. Their frontal lobes aren't fully developed until they are 25. They have the arrogance and self-centeredness that's developmentally appropriate and critical developing their own identity. But it does no real good for group management decisions that impact many different types of people.

Eric Ludke is currently sponsoring a bill that would make every student board position in Maryland a voting position.