Parents bullied the SBOE member

[Anonymous]

I would almost guarantee the bullying came from the crazed conservatives who read the National Review article and decided she was an easy target

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest problem of MCPS is the parents. MCPS is going downhill because of these transplant parents.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/student-member-montgomery-board-education-attacked-online-officials-say/65-ff37cec6-f3f5-402c-8f9b-4b5043234700

Where does it say "transplant"? Are we adding our spice to this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

No, that is not what she said. This is what she said:

“The last thing I want is for schools to be a source of anxiety for our students and it feels like making masks optional because of all the messaging, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, that my mask not only protects me, it protects my community,” O’Looney said at the meeting. “… That’s still a lingering sentiment. Regardless of what data says, perception is reality for students and families. I’m really afraid that if we get rid of the mask mandate, it’s going to cause a lot of fear for our students and families.”

It’s still all about perception- not science. And that’s very misguided. As a full member of the Board of Education should will be held responsible for her comments, just like any other full voting member. That position is full of perks but unfortunately this is the downside, having your comments be critiqued, just like the other members.

However, she should not be bullied, mocked or have any racist comments on her way. Rather, a rational discussion of her point of view was warranted.

She was making these comments in the context of CDC recommendations so it was very much consistent with the science. It’s not her fault the CDC changed its mind the next day to make hospital capacity, not illness, the touchstone of its masking reccommendations (and its not even clear hospital capacity is the right metric for a decision about school masking).

I am sure she is happy to be held “accountable” by her constituents— but that is very different from being the subject of nationwide internet mob.

Oh brother. DP here, her comments were not about following the data on masking. They were not on following CDC guidelines. They were about placating the anxiety and feelings of children. You can talk context all you want, but from what was posted, she did not put it into context. In fact, she said "Regardless of what the data says . . ." Meaning she knows the data does not support masking.

That was going to cause an absolute outrage. Not sure how her parents (adults in her life) weren't preparing her for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The biggest problem of MCPS is the parents. MCPS is going downhill because of these transplant parents.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/student-member-montgomery-board-education-attacked-online-officials-say/65-ff37cec6-f3f5-402c-8f9b-4b5043234700

There are people it is ok to bully. Elected representatives are certainly in that mix.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Your state legislators disagree with you.

https://legiscan.com/MD/bill/HB87/2016

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

No, that is not what she said. This is what she said:

“The last thing I want is for schools to be a source of anxiety for our students and it feels like making masks optional because of all the messaging, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, that my mask not only protects me, it protects my community,” O’Looney said at the meeting. “… That’s still a lingering sentiment. Regardless of what data says, perception is reality for students and families. I’m really afraid that if we get rid of the mask mandate, it’s going to cause a lot of fear for our students and families.”

It’s still all about perception- not science. And that’s very misguided. As a full member of the Board of Education should will be held responsible for her comments, just like any other full voting member. That position is full of perks but unfortunately this is the downside, having your comments be critiqued, just like the other members.

However, she should not be bullied, mocked or have any racist comments on her way. Rather, a rational discussion of her point of view was warranted.

She was making these comments in the context of CDC recommendations so it was very much consistent with the science. It’s not her fault the CDC changed its mind the next day to make hospital capacity, not illness, the touchstone of its masking reccommendations (and its not even clear hospital capacity is the right metric for a decision about school masking).

I am sure she is happy to be held “accountable” by her constituents— but that is very different from being the subject of nationwide internet mob.

Oh brother. DP here, her comments were not about following the data on masking. They were not on following CDC guidelines. They were about placating the anxiety and feelings of children. You can talk context all you want, but from what was posted, she did not put it into context. In fact, she said "Regardless of what the data says . . ." Meaning she knows the data does not support masking.

That was going to cause an absolute outrage. Not sure how her parents (adults in her life) weren't preparing her for it.

"From what was posted she did not put it into context"

How do you even write a sentence like that.

And it only was going to cause an absolute outrage because people have gone nuts, and some people like the fact that people have gone nuts and are trying to drive more people nuts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

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Agreed. There should not be a Student Member of the Board.

This is a large school district with an even larger budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

No, that is not what she said. This is what she said:

“The last thing I want is for schools to be a source of anxiety for our students and it feels like making masks optional because of all the messaging, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, that my mask not only protects me, it protects my community,” O’Looney said at the meeting. “… That’s still a lingering sentiment. Regardless of what data says, perception is reality for students and families. I’m really afraid that if we get rid of the mask mandate, it’s going to cause a lot of fear for our students and families.”

It’s still all about perception- not science. And that’s very misguided. As a full member of the Board of Education should will be held responsible for her comments, just like any other full voting member. That position is full of perks but unfortunately this is the downside, having your comments be critiqued, just like the other members.

However, she should not be bullied, mocked or have any racist comments on her way. Rather, a rational discussion of her point of view was warranted.

She was making these comments in the context of CDC recommendations so it was very much consistent with the science. It’s not her fault the CDC changed its mind the next day to make hospital capacity, not illness, the touchstone of its masking reccommendations (and its not even clear hospital capacity is the right metric for a decision about school masking).

I am sure she is happy to be held “accountable” by her constituents— but that is very different from being the subject of nationwide internet mob.

Oh brother. DP here, her comments were not about following the data on masking. They were not on following CDC guidelines. They were about placating the anxiety and feelings of children. You can talk context all you want, but from what was posted, she did not put it into context. In fact, she said "Regardless of what the data says . . ." Meaning she knows the data does not support masking.

That was going to cause an absolute outrage. Not sure how her parents (adults in her life) weren't preparing her for it.

"From what was posted she did not put it into context"

How do you even write a sentence like that.

And it only was going to cause an absolute outrage because people have gone nuts, and some people like the fact that people have gone nuts and are trying to drive more people nuts

I didn't read the entire transcript of the meeting. I am leaving open the possibility that the SMOB could have said additional statements that were not posted. What's difficult here?

Of course, you seem to think it's okay for a voting child on the board to disregard data in favor of people's feelings, so we likely see things differently.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, she's been a really strong board member and will be a tough act to follow. Her questions and comments are often much more intelligent than those of her older colleagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

No, that is not what she said. This is what she said:

“The last thing I want is for schools to be a source of anxiety for our students and it feels like making masks optional because of all the messaging, especially at the beginning of the pandemic, that my mask not only protects me, it protects my community,” O’Looney said at the meeting. “… That’s still a lingering sentiment. Regardless of what data says, perception is reality for students and families. I’m really afraid that if we get rid of the mask mandate, it’s going to cause a lot of fear for our students and families.”

She refers to masking policies and beliefs from two years ago as a reason to keep them on now. That is also dumb (new poster here by the way).

If you watched the meeting you would have heard her describe how she had been visiting schools over the last few weeks talking with students, and this was a common sentiment she was hearing from them. As the student representative on the board, it seems appropriate that she would formulate her positions based on the feedback from her constituents. I will also note that at that meeting she said she would be unable to attend the 3/8 meeting when the voting would be taking place, so she was making her comments then, probably assuming that the vote would go the other way, but still wanting her thoughts to be included.

I sure hope it goes the other way. UNMASK OUR KIDS

Oh, the melodrama of it all. Yawwwwnnn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest problem of MCPS is the parents. MCPS is going downhill because of these transplant parents.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/student-member-montgomery-board-education-attacked-online-officials-say/65-ff37cec6-f3f5-402c-8f9b-4b5043234700

There are people it is ok to bully. Elected representatives are certainly in that mix.

No. It is never “ok to bully” anyone. Are you 12?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, she's been a really strong board member and will be a tough act to follow. Her questions and comments are often much more intelligent than those of her older colleagues.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said the perception of masks making us safer was all that matters. That makes no sense and is worthy of ridicule.

This is one more reason why there shouldn't be a full-fledge student member of the board. They are taking a position where they are able to make broad decisions regarding our school system and yet it is not politically correct to criticize them when they say things that don't make sense.

+100

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Agreed. Kids can have a voice but not a vote.

Not having a vote is exactly what it means to not have a voice. If the SMOB is non-voting, it's a waste of the student's time re: pushing the dialogue based on their current experiences and it'd be a waste of the BOE's time as a body. They don't make decisions on personnel, etc. so it's not "broad" decisions. After all, they are the ones who will have to follow those policies in their respective schools. Name one area/sector where the consumer doesn't have a voice that's almost co-equal.