Now we know where Hogan stands

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny, Anne Arundel and PG have been able to go virtual, but MCPS have not.

I already know two 50+ vaxxed adults who have caught Covid from their their vaxxed teenagers in MCPS just since the beginning of school. Fortunately, they seem ok, but we will see who ends up with long Covid and who doesn't.

People want to forget if their kids get covid, they can bring it home to them.

MCPS promised they will stay open. They are following their promise.

First, stop spreading misinformation. AA did not go virtual. They switch a very small number of schools to virtual similar to what MCPS did.

Second, what exactly did PG gain from two weeks of virtual? There is not a shred of evidence of any impact other than lost in person days, disruption to work, and some teachers not having to figure out how to adapt to staffing issues.

DP - According to the Maryland State dashboard, there were 889 new covid cases in the past 24 hours and 65 people died in Maryland in the past 24 hours.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/

According to the New York Times dashboard, Montgomery County alone had 88 deaths in the past two weeks. Remember that when someone dies, that frees up an ICU or hospital bed.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/montgomery-maryland-covid-cases.html

How many died in Montgomery County in the past 24 hours, and why did I use the NYT data for Montgomery County deaths? The Maryland dashboard only breaks the data down by zip code which makes it difficult for anyone to analyze the data. Why would the State do that? My guess is that it's to let ignorant people shoot of their mouths and think there is no issue where they live (and it's working!).

We get it. COVID is raging out of control with no end in sight. People are dying. Hospitals are overflowing but I need my free daycare!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny, Anne Arundel and PG have been able to go virtual, but MCPS have not.

I already know two 50+ vaxxed adults who have caught Covid from their their vaxxed teenagers in MCPS just since the beginning of school. Fortunately, they seem ok, but we will see who ends up with long Covid and who doesn't.

People want to forget if their kids get covid, they can bring it home to them.

MCPS promised they will stay open. They are following their promise.

First, stop spreading misinformation. AA did not go virtual. They switch a very small number of schools to virtual similar to what MCPS did.

Second, what exactly did PG gain from two weeks of virtual? There is not a shred of evidence of any impact other than lost in person days, disruption to work, and some teachers not having to figure out how to adapt to staffing issues.

DP - According to the Maryland State dashboard, there were 889 new covid cases in the past 24 hours and 65 people died in Maryland in the past 24 hours.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/

According to the New York Times dashboard, Montgomery County alone had 88 deaths in the past two weeks. Remember that when someone dies, that frees up an ICU or hospital bed.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/montgomery-maryland-covid-cases.html

How many died in Montgomery County in the past 24 hours, and why did I use the NYT data for Montgomery County deaths? The Maryland dashboard only breaks the data down by zip code which makes it difficult for anyone to analyze the data. Why would the State do that? My guess is that it's to let ignorant people shoot of their mouths and think there is no issue where they live (and it's working!).

You are sick and just because someone dies, that does not necessarily mean they were in ICU.

Exactly. 88 died in MC these past two weeks. Pay your respects to those families, then make your comments.

It is wrong to attribute those deaths to schools being open. There is no evidence that if schools were virtual the numbers would be any different. It’s called the counter factual. It’s basic science which you apparently do not understand.

And what kind of clown edits out someone else's post? I bolded the part to help remind you.

American parents cherish their children and will do anything to protect them. Normally parents will oppose policies that threaten the health and safety of children.

To counter parental instincts to protect their children, there is a technique used to desensitize people so they believe extreme measures (ex. violence, death, etc.) are socially acceptable. If you want real-world examples, just look no further to modern-day North Korea and Russia.

"At the time of the (Chernobyl Nuclear) accident, Ukraine was a Soviet republic, and initially, the Soviet authorities tried to cover up the disaster. To avoid raising suspicions, they went ahead a few days later with May Day parades in Ukraine, marching schoolchildren through swirling radioactive dust. This callous attitude helped stir anti-Soviet sentiment throughout Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, the republics most affected, and the accident is now seen as one cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union five years later."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/defend-chernobyl-during-invasion-why-162127015.html

"As the world enters a third year of the global Covid-19 pandemic, North Korea claims to remain free of the coronavirus because of its strict border closures and travel restrictions that have reportedly worsened food shortages. As the reclusive state rang in the new year, supreme leader Kim Jong-un called on North Koreans to do their part to combat the virus despite economic hardships and state television ran video of children dressed up as bottles of hand sanitizer."
https://www.scmp.com/video/asia/3161908/north-korea-fights-covid-19-dancing-hand-sanitiser-kids-and-economy-crushing

As we all know, hand sanitizers do squat for an airborne virus. Similarly, as we all know, when you unmask in a crowded school lunchroom, covid-infected individuals can infect others.

Edit someone else's posts all you want - but it won't change facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1 million

This is why we need balance in government. All Dems or all Republican is a recipe for disaster. Our founding fathers understood this.

Thank goodness we have Hogan.

-An Independent (who used to be a Democrat, but no more)

+1

Virtual learning is only instruction when there is an engaged adult with the student who can help instruct and manage the virtual lessons. It does not work for elementary and middle school kids when there is no in-person support. Virtual learning for special needs kids is beyond pointless.

I can give a specific recipe on a video and even bake the cake at my own house. It doesn’t mean the child can watch it and learn how to bake their own cake without support. Someone needs to help turn the oven on, plug in the mixer and wash the dishes. Did you provide instruction on how to bake a cake? Yes. Was it effective with a child learning how to bake a cake? That depends on whether a parent is home with the child. If I have to be home and engaged to support the instruction, I’m homeschooling and teaching how to make lasagna because I hate cake .

Hogan has never wavered. He’s not moving the goal posts like the teachers Union has continued to do through the entire pandemic.
180 in-person days.

I do jot understand why we are still having this conversation. Covid is not going anywhere. Virtual instruction is ineffective and not shown to lower the spread of covid. Nothing is closed because of omicron.

Exactly. Everything else has remained open. I can go to bars and restaurants and beauty salons. Anything and everything. Yet some people want to shut down schools?? Still?! Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1 million

This is why we need balance in government. All Dems or all Republican is a recipe for disaster. Our founding fathers understood this.

Thank goodness we have Hogan.

-An Independent (who used to be a Democrat, but no more)

+1

Virtual learning is only instruction when there is an engaged adult with the student who can help instruct and manage the virtual lessons. It does not work for elementary and middle school kids when there is no in-person support. Virtual learning for special needs kids is beyond pointless.

I can give a specific recipe on a video and even bake the cake at my own house. It doesn’t mean the child can watch it and learn how to bake their own cake without support. Someone needs to help turn the oven on, plug in the mixer and wash the dishes. Did you provide instruction on how to bake a cake? Yes. Was it effective with a child learning how to bake a cake? That depends on whether a parent is home with the child. If I have to be home and engaged to support the instruction, I’m homeschooling and teaching how to make lasagna because I hate cake .

Hogan has never wavered. He’s not moving the goal posts like the teachers Union has continued to do through the entire pandemic.
180 in-person days.

I do jot understand why we are still having this conversation. Covid is not going anywhere. Virtual instruction is ineffective and not shown to lower the spread of covid. Nothing is closed because of omicron.

Exactly. Everything else has remained open. I can go to bars and restaurants and beauty salons. Anything and everything. Yet some people want to shut down schools?? Still?! Ridiculous.

Yeah. Bars and restaurants and beauty salons are still open. And since most of the people dying on the Frontline workers who work in them, who are faceless and endlessly replaceable, you don't care.

Again, the chutzpah of the Moco people and the governor saying they are keeping things open for the disadvantaged is just staggering to me. No. We are sending people into their crappy jobs to get sick, get permanently disabled, rack of unpayable medical bills, and die.

[Anonymous]

My phone's autocorrect feature also clearly needs work. But you get the picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1
Independent, and liberal spouse who agrees

A closed school is defined as one where no instructional learning occurs. A 10-day temporary virtual learning status to help slow virus spread does not close schools.

+1, but don’t bother. To them, “school” is “get my kids out of my house.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1
Independent, and liberal spouse who agrees

A closed school is defined as one where no instructional learning occurs. A 10-day temporary virtual learning status to help slow virus spread does not close schools.

The school is closed... ie, "closed school".

And per Hogan, MD stated that it had to be IN PERSON 180 day instruction, like the vast majority of this country and the world.

No. That’s “closed building,” not closed school, but then, you already knew that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools need to stay open. PERIOD!

No. PERIOD!

(see how stupid you sound?)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Schools need to stay open. PERIOD!

Or you'll do what? Pound on a desk with both fists?

She’s just like the moron on another thread who said “OK, I’ll put up with masks for 10 more days, but then “I’m going to get LOUD.”

Go ahead, you shrieking harpies. Get “LOUD.” No one gives a damn.

[Anonymous]

Fine, you are paranoid about covid. So why don’t you just keep your kids home and home school them? Why are you so insistent, despite all the evidence, that the schools need to close?

It is like you are determined to f-up everyone else’s education. Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The damage is done. Omicron is so infectious you've pretty much all given it to your children. Thank you for your contribution to medical research. I am hoping that with the sharp peak and now the decline in infection rates that will be enough for my child and family to avoid catching it when my child returns to school next week for the first time since Christmas break.

It's not the solution I wanted. It exposed a lot of vulnerable people and I can't even imagine the cost for some of your teachers and staff... But it's the world we live in. A world full of careless sociopaths.

Yes a sociopath society that punished children for almost two years while keeping bars open.

God, don’t get ever get bored of parroting the same tired nonsense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1 million

This is why we need balance in government. All Dems or all Republican is a recipe for disaster. Our founding fathers understood this.

Thank goodness we have Hogan.

-An Independent (who used to be a Democrat, but no more)

+1

Virtual learning is only instruction when there is an engaged adult with the student who can help instruct and manage the virtual lessons. It does not work for elementary and middle school kids when there is no in-person support. Virtual learning for special needs kids is beyond pointless.

I can give a specific recipe on a video and even bake the cake at my own house. It doesn’t mean the child can watch it and learn how to bake their own cake without support. Someone needs to help turn the oven on, plug in the mixer and wash the dishes. Did you provide instruction on how to bake a cake? Yes. Was it effective with a child learning how to bake a cake? That depends on whether a parent is home with the child. If I have to be home and engaged to support the instruction, I’m homeschooling and teaching how to make lasagna because I hate cake .

Hogan has never wavered. He’s not moving the goal posts like the teachers Union has continued to do through the entire pandemic.
180 in-person days.

I do jot understand why we are still having this conversation. Covid is not going anywhere. Virtual instruction is ineffective and not shown to lower the spread of covid. Nothing is closed because of omicron.

Exactly. Everything else has remained open. I can go to bars and restaurants and beauty salons. Anything and everything. Yet some people want to shut down schools?? Still?! Ridiculous.

Just because you can does not mean you should. I have not been in a beauty salon, restaurant or many other places. You probably have so stop complaining.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An anti-mask mom threatened to bring a loaded gun during a Virginia school board meeting, saying 'see you all on Monday'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/parent-opposed-mask-mandates-threatened-182520778.html


I don't think having a leader catering to people like this is "fortunate"

Last I checked, Hogan was gov of MD, not VA. Maybe you are in the wrong school forum?

Oh yes. I forgot. Maryland and Montgomery County in particular is a magical land where no crazy Republican's live. We have mystic anti-cra-cra barriers on the boundaries of 485 and 270 to ensure such a thing does not exist here. My bad.

Your poor grammar reveals how little you value education, and how much you would benefit from it.

You also profoundly misread the current political climate. Even very liberal parents like myself are horrified by the closure of schools for so long, and the last thing we want to see is a repeat of this. I am even willing to vote Republican if necessary to see the schools remain open, something I never thought I would say.

The fact is that omicron poses close to zero risk for children, and is not much worse than the flu for everyone else. Closing schools while everything else remains open would be criminally stupid.

On the contrary. I'm not for permanent virtual-learning at all. But I am for temporary virtual learning when school outbreaks occur.

As far as "misreading the current political climate", what I see are a few very angry people dominating the more reasonable majority. It seems as if the in-person crowd had to withdraw their petition? I couldn't find it anymore. Could it be since in-person was only around 1K and the virtual petition was at 20K?
https://www.change.org/p/mcps-board-of-education-we-need-virtual-learning-right-now

Ohhhh, this makes sense...you're crazy petition poster. Just look at the VA Governor election to see how the real world works.

Yeah, a bunch of non melinated suburban moms in NoVA who can't stand their kids voted for Youngin so their kids could stay in a covid school cesspool while moms could resume brunch

And yoga. Oh, and don’t forget Pilates!

[Anonymous]

I voted for Elrich, I phone banked for dems in 2018, Im a bleed blue progressive. Larry Hogan is looking real good for having kept MCPS from falling into an indefinite virtual hole and I wish he’d do more for quarantine-happy daycares.

Frankly I know a lot of parents who would vote for nazis right now if they could keep daycares and schools open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad we a Republican governor to moderate the crazy school closers in Montgomery County.

-A Democrat

+1 million

This is why we need balance in government. All Dems or all Republican is a recipe for disaster. Our founding fathers understood this.

Thank goodness we have Hogan.

-An Independent (who used to be a Democrat, but no more)

+1

Virtual learning is only instruction when there is an engaged adult with the student who can help instruct and manage the virtual lessons. It does not work for elementary and middle school kids when there is no in-person support. Virtual learning for special needs kids is beyond pointless.

I can give a specific recipe on a video and even bake the cake at my own house. It doesn’t mean the child can watch it and learn how to bake their own cake without support. Someone needs to help turn the oven on, plug in the mixer and wash the dishes. Did you provide instruction on how to bake a cake? Yes. Was it effective with a child learning how to bake a cake? That depends on whether a parent is home with the child. If I have to be home and engaged to support the instruction, I’m homeschooling and teaching how to make lasagna because I hate cake .

Hogan has never wavered. He’s not moving the goal posts like the teachers Union has continued to do through the entire pandemic.
180 in-person days.

I do jot understand why we are still having this conversation. Covid is not going anywhere. Virtual instruction is ineffective and not shown to lower the spread of covid. Nothing is closed because of omicron.

Exactly. Everything else has remained open. I can go to bars and restaurants and beauty salons. Anything and everything. Yet some people want to shut down schools?? Still?! Ridiculous.

Yeah. Bars and restaurants and beauty salons are still open. And since most of the people dying on the Frontline workers who work in them, who are faceless and endlessly replaceable, you don't care.

Again, the chutzpah of the Moco people and the governor saying they are keeping things open for the disadvantaged is just staggering to me. No. We are sending people into their crappy jobs to get sick, get permanently disabled, rack of unpayable medical bills, and die.

This is the kind of stupid thing you can say on a message board and get to walk away. Who is sending them? Who would pay for them to interminably stay home? Covid will continue circulating in every part of the non-Maryland world regardless...so why wouldn't everybody quit, interminably stay home, and get paid? What's your actual plan beyond making stupid posts?