Now we know where Hogan stands

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

[Anonymous]

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

[Anonymous]

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

Um.

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine

And you know better than all of them. Got it.

[Anonymous]

My kids are in school.

And you reopeners are pivoting to anti-mask rhetoric now like good little soldiers. I'm sure that's what you think you are, in fact. Good little soldiers in what you think is a clever little war. But the truth is, you've overplayed your hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are in school.

And you reopeners are pivoting to anti-mask rhetoric now like good little soldiers. I'm sure that's what you think you are, in fact. Good little soldiers in what you think is a clever little war. But the truth is, you've overplayed your hand.

Your kids are in school thanks to the parents who are ‘reopeners’. If we weren’t around, your kids would still be virtual.

[Anonymous]

I’d like to see that study that says kids have terrible long COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to see that study that says kids have terrible long COVID.

I posted up thread.. we don't really have any idea. NIH is only just starting to study long covid. People are just using anecdotes and sensational articles which causes undue fear.

[Anonymous]

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

Um.

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine

And you know better than all of them. Got it.

Um, yeah. Philadelphia? That's your big support source? You mean the city where the half the school district had to go virtual for a month because teachers were dropping like flies?

https://philadelphia.chalkbeat.org/2022/1/24/22899994/covid-cases-in-person-philadelphia-schools-teachers-principals-omicron-variant-drop

American Academy of Pediatrics? The same AAP that warned 1M kids got sick with x2-x4 times the number of under 5 hospitalizations? (Also see the quote from Susan Coffin, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia aka CHOP in the article).

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-omicron-is-putting-more-kids-in-the-hospital/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nearly-1-million-pediatric-covid-cases-reported-last-week-rcna12631

It seems as if they aren't consistent with their recommendations?

As far as covid-related in-person learning recommendations go, I couldn't even find what you're talking about from the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine other than some stale paper about isolation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

Um.

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine

And you know better than all of them. Got it.

Um, yeah. Philadelphia? That's your big support source? You mean the city where the half the school district had to go virtual for a month because teachers were dropping like flies?

https://philadelphia.chalkbeat.org/2022/1/24/22899994/covid-cases-in-person-philadelphia-schools-teachers-principals-omicron-variant-drop

American Academy of Pediatrics? The same AAP that warned 1M kids got sick with x2-x4 times the number of under 5 hospitalizations? (Also see the quote from Susan Coffin, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia aka CHOP in the article).

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-omicron-is-putting-more-kids-in-the-hospital/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nearly-1-million-pediatric-covid-cases-reported-last-week-rcna12631

It seems as if they aren't consistent with their recommendations?

As far as covid-related in-person learning recommendations go, I couldn't even find what you're talking about from the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine other than some stale paper about isolation?

The best they have to offer is an opinion article not based in facts to justify their unwillingness to be cautious during covid.

[Anonymous]

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

Um.

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine

And you know better than all of them. Got it.

Um, yeah. Philadelphia? That's your big support source? You mean the city where the half the school district had to go virtual for a month because teachers were dropping like flies?

https://philadelphia.chalkbeat.org/2022/1/24/22899994/covid-cases-in-person-philadelphia-schools-teachers-principals-omicron-variant-drop

American Academy of Pediatrics? The same AAP that warned 1M kids got sick with x2-x4 times the number of under 5 hospitalizations? (Also see the quote from Susan Coffin, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia aka CHOP in the article).

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-omicron-is-putting-more-kids-in-the-hospital/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nearly-1-million-pediatric-covid-cases-reported-last-week-rcna12631

It seems as if they aren't consistent with their recommendations?

As far as covid-related in-person learning recommendations go, I couldn't even find what you're talking about from the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine other than some stale paper about isolation?

CHOP is arguably the best Children’s hospital in the world. So, yeah, I do trust their PolicyLab’s recommendations more than some internet rando whose biggest claim is “following real doctors and medical science” and who thinks links from nbcnews.com should guide public policy.

https://policylab.chop.edu/tools-and-memos/guidance-person-education-k-12-educational-settings

NASEM’s position paper is old, but way back then, people here were insisting there was NO WAY schools could be safe. That NASEM disagreed is relevant.
https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/07/schools-should-prioritize-reopening-in-fall-2020-especially-for-grades-k-5-while-weighing-risks-and-benefits

Do you honestly think that plucking random links about COVID, with zero context or synthesis or appreciation of the broader public health context (remember, mental health is health) gives you credibility?

[Anonymous]

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I think the PP was trying to claim that I'm a sociopath for... believing in science? I'm not sure. S/he clearly doesn't understand sociopathy/psychopathy.

Really, though, in the context of a county as highly vaccinated as MoCo, and taking into account ALL the trade-offs in the cost-benefit analysis of schools being in-person (not solely COVID), yes, I'm completely comfortable with children taking off their masks to eat lunch. Why wouldn't I be? (again, science, and all that)

Of course the kids aren't the sociopaths - it's the adults telling them it's okay to remove masks and there is no risk that are.

How do you think these kids are getting infected if they're masked all day long? You claim you follow science and took into account all the trade-offs a cost-benefit analysis?

Okay. Show us.

How are they getting infected? Probably from all the other things they do outside of school. If schools are as dangerous as you say, why hasn’t every single student in MCPS tested positive for COVID this past month? I’ll wait.

Every single student won't test positive - at least I hope not, unless MCPS does something really stupid such as not requiring masks at school. Either way your point makes no sense.

Why didn't every single child get sick last year and the year before? They were virtual. The children only were infected if their parents infected them or they came into contact from playgrounds, etc. The Alpha and Delta strains didn't affect children as much.

Why was there a much bigger 400% spike this year than last year and the year before? The Omicron variant was much more transmissible than Delta, affected Children more than Alpha and Delta, and the children were in-person and without masks eating in school lunchrooms or catching it over the Winter Break with families. The children had far more opportunity to intermingle with many children.

If you want to claim Omicron isn't dangerous, there were 6 deaths / day on a seven-day-average in Mongtomery County with 517 new cases yesterday. The good news is that the spike is dropping, but we're not through the winter yet.

But is that your claim? There is no child-to-child transmission in lunchrooms? There never is transmission in schools and it's all the fault of parents? That's pretty insulting.

Hardly. My “claim” is that the transmission that occurs within school settings (cost) is well worth in-person school (benefit). You’re reading so much into my post, it’s kind of frightening.

My "cost" is the long-term effect of repeated covid infections on children's lungs, risk of health care losing even more seasoned medical professionals, the loss of teachers who quit the profession due to inflexible policies, the loss of life in the elderly or immunocompromised (both elderly and children), versus the "benefit" of providing daycare for parents?

It's kind of frightening that you don't consider these "cost" factors an issue?

Anyone who reduces public education to daycare undermines any credibility they hope to have. CHOP PolicyLab, AAP, UNICEF, NASEM *all* prioritize in-person education right now. And you know better than them because...?

..I follow real Doctors and medical science? Not wannabees who want to be called Doctor because they are education specialists?

Um.

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine

And you know better than all of them. Got it.

Um, yeah. Philadelphia? That's your big support source? You mean the city where the half the school district had to go virtual for a month because teachers were dropping like flies?

https://philadelphia.chalkbeat.org/2022/1/24/22899994/covid-cases-in-person-philadelphia-schools-teachers-principals-omicron-variant-drop

American Academy of Pediatrics? The same AAP that warned 1M kids got sick with x2-x4 times the number of under 5 hospitalizations? (Also see the quote from Susan Coffin, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia aka CHOP in the article).

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-omicron-is-putting-more-kids-in-the-hospital/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nearly-1-million-pediatric-covid-cases-reported-last-week-rcna12631

It seems as if they aren't consistent with their recommendations?

As far as covid-related in-person learning recommendations go, I couldn't even find what you're talking about from the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine other than some stale paper about isolation?

CHOP is arguably the best Children’s hospital in the world. So, yeah, I do trust their PolicyLab’s recommendations more than some internet rando whose biggest claim is “following real doctors and medical science” and who thinks links from nbcnews.com should guide public policy.

https://policylab.chop.edu/tools-and-memos/guidance-person-education-k-12-educational-settings

NASEM’s position paper is old, but way back then, people here were insisting there was NO WAY schools could be safe. That NASEM disagreed is relevant.
https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/07/schools-should-prioritize-reopening-in-fall-2020-especially-for-grades-k-5-while-weighing-risks-and-benefits

Do you honestly think that plucking random links about COVID, with zero context or synthesis or appreciation of the broader public health context (remember, mental health is health) gives you credibility?

Yeah, I totally believe that their school system followed this policy, but I think you missed the other post where half of Philadelphia's school district had to go virtual for a month?

And since MCPS did the same thing (shut down 11 schools, then 16...), you seriously think you have any credibility now? lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/alexjgoldstein/status/1485318171041095691?s=19

The drumbeat sound of the reopening anti-maskers is loud and maddening. They work things into their arguments deliberately, falsehoods like, "schools don't transit COVID." They do this on purpose. They do this because their real purpose is to destroy American institutions like public schools. They will be pivoting more and more to denounce masks next--as they are already in Virginia. They are organized, they are paid, and they are the scum of the earth.

Do not let them win.

Not at all. Quit it with the misinformation.

We want to open schools because we recognize how important schools are. If we wanted to destroy public schools, we’d advocate for more closures!

And nobody is ‘anti-mask’. We want mask choice. Virginia is not banning masks. Virginia gives parents the CHOICE.

Look let's be real here. It won't be the parent choice it will be the child's choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/alexjgoldstein/status/1485318171041095691?s=19

The drumbeat sound of the reopening anti-maskers is loud and maddening. They work things into their arguments deliberately, falsehoods like, "schools don't transit COVID." They do this on purpose. They do this because their real purpose is to destroy American institutions like public schools. They will be pivoting more and more to denounce masks next--as they are already in Virginia. They are organized, they are paid, and they are the scum of the earth.

Do not let them win.

Not at all. Quit it with the misinformation.

We want to open schools because we recognize how important schools are. If we wanted to destroy public schools, we’d advocate for more closures!

And nobody is ‘anti-mask’. We want mask choice. Virginia is not banning masks. Virginia gives parents the CHOICE.

Look let's be real here. It won't be the parent choice it will be the child's choice.

Seriously, when you say things like "it won't be the parent choice it will be the child's choice" you kinda giving away you're not a good parent (or maybe you're a kid pretending to be an adult?). That's like saying, it will be the child's choice to wear seat belts, or it will be the child's choice to come home before midnight. If you want to make an opinion it really needs to appeal to parents that care about children, you know?

[Anonymous]

Took a look at the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine's guidance. I don't know why you think that MCPS is following it?

"Limit large gatherings of students, such as during assemblies, in the cafeteria, and overcrowding at school entrances, possibly by staggering arrival times."
"Reorganize classrooms to enable physical distancing, such as by limiting class sizes or moving instruction to larger spaces. The report says cohorting, when a group of 10 students or less stay with the same staff as much as possible, is a promising strategy for physical distancing."
"Prioritize cleaning, ventilation, and air filtration, while recognizing that these alone will not sufficiently lower the risk of COVID-19 transmission."
https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/2020/07/schools-should-prioritize-reopening-in-fall-2020-especially-for-grades-k-5-while-weighing-risks-and-benefits

Students unmasking and eating indoors in the school cafeteria, class sizes greater than 10, and not cleaning between classes are all things that MCPS does not do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/alexjgoldstein/status/1485318171041095691?s=19

The drumbeat sound of the reopening anti-maskers is loud and maddening. They work things into their arguments deliberately, falsehoods like, "schools don't transit COVID." They do this on purpose. They do this because their real purpose is to destroy American institutions like public schools. They will be pivoting more and more to denounce masks next--as they are already in Virginia. They are organized, they are paid, and they are the scum of the earth.

Do not let them win.

Not at all. Quit it with the misinformation.

We want to open schools because we recognize how important schools are. If we wanted to destroy public schools, we’d advocate for more closures!

And nobody is ‘anti-mask’. We want mask choice. Virginia is not banning masks. Virginia gives parents the CHOICE.

Look let's be real here. It won't be the parent choice it will be the child's choice.

Umm, okay? I’m fine with that. If my kid wants to wear a mask, good for him! If he wants to take it off, I’m also fine with that.

Either way, the mandates need to go.