85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

[Anonymous]

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You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.

It's interesting that you should say that, because in my experience, the people in the poorer, less white parts of the county - who were hardest hit by covid - are also the most consistent about wearing masks in public places. In contrast, the people I know who are least consistent about wearing masks in public places are affluent old white Republicans.

Really? Obviously you haven’t been to some of the more lower-income areas in Baltimore. Nary a mask to be seen. And not tons of white Republicans there.

This is a thread about Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What frustrates me is DC and VA have no mask mandates and there is no real significant difference in results. The virus doesn't stop on one side of the river...

And MOCo has a higher vax rate, I believe (although that may have changed).

It makes no sense.

It makes no sense because DC and VA made a dumb decision. Be grateful you have better leadership.

Or maybe it makes no sense because mask mandates don't have a meaningful impact on disease transmission.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What frustrates me is DC and VA have no mask mandates and there is no real significant difference in results. The virus doesn't stop on one side of the river...

And MOCo has a higher vax rate, I believe (although that may have changed).

It makes no sense.

It makes no sense because DC and VA made a dumb decision. Be grateful you have better leadership.

Or maybe it makes no sense because mask mandates don't have a meaningful impact on disease transmission.

When MoCo removed mask mandates numbers went up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s becoming very clear that being vaccinated means almost nothing in terms of not getting covid.

So the vaccine keeps most people from having severe cases that require hospitalization. Ok, that’s great. But you know what? Most people who get covid don’t require hospitalization either. So there’s that.

But it clearly doesn’t do much to prevent infection.

Correct, but if you looked at anything beyond the headlines this was always the case. The news and government are pushing that all we need are vaccines but if you look at other medical data they have said that this is to help with severe infection. You take it so its not deadly to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."

This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.

So when does that shift occur from pandemic to endemic?

I feel frustrated as the other poster. When does Moco let this end? Why are kids still wearing masks on the playground at recess? Why do I need to wear a mask if I'm triple vaccinated? What's the point of wearing a mask in a restaurant if I'm pretty much not wearing it at all while eating?

Wearing a mask some of the time while in a restaurant is still better than wearing a mask none of the time while in a restaurant, no?

Really? You think wearing a mask from walking from the door to your table makes any meaningful difference?

The studies show that vaccination, not masks, reduce the spread of covid. I thought Elrich said last week that like 95% of eligible 12 and up were vaccinated. Our rates are low. Our hospitals are open. Why are we living with so much restriction?

The studies also show that masks reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2 (which is the virus. COVID is the disease.) Our rates were almost back up to "high transmission" this weekend.

Real world studies, no. Maybe reduce, but not by much. Something like 10%. That is low enough that folks who want to wear them should knock themselves out, but others should not be required to wear them.

[Anonymous]

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Maryland state thinks it's fine to remove masks at 80% vax rate.

Some folks in MoCo just live in a constant state of fear. Mask up if you want to, but some of us are fully vaxxed, including boosters. 80% was the target MoCo set, even with Delta. Omicron is a lot less worse than delta.

Omicron is (probably, preliminarily) less severe than delta, but (definitely) more transmissible.

Which means that we should be celebrating the fact that this virus is doing what almost all of them do. Becoming less virulent. Who cares if we all get a runny nose?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.

Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.

You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.

This is the most classist, racist garbage I’ve seen in this thread. This is why minorities and the working class is moving far away from the Democrats, a party that supposedly represents them.

It makes no logical sense to wear a mask if you don’t have close exposure for someone for a long period of time, like running in a 7-11 to get a coffee at 5 am. It does make sense to wear a mask when you’re having dinner next to another couple that is 5 feet away from you. Yet supposedly educated like you don’t see how ridiculous it is for there to be mask regulations for the former and not the latter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.

Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.

You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.

This is the most classist, racist garbage I’ve seen in this thread. This is why minorities and the working class is moving far away from the Democrats, a party that supposedly represents them.

It makes no logical sense to wear a mask if you don’t have close exposure for someone for a long period of time, like running in a 7-11 to get a coffee at 5 am. It does make sense to wear a mask when you’re having dinner next to another couple that is 5 feet away from you. Yet supposedly educated like you don’t see how ridiculous it is for there to be mask regulations for the former and not the latter.

DP but honestly, people like you that weaponize racism to support your pet issues if the day are the biggest problem with this county and the reason it is going to crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe we are in year 2, stretching toward year 3, of a pandemic and people are still calling others sheep about wearing masks and getting boosters.

At this point, I am done. I will stay home and you people bleating about masks can be done and get some Covid already. Die or don't die, overwhelm the hospitals and cause others to die, I don't care any longer. Go cause a situation like the current one in Michigan. It's what you want, so go right ahead. You are already just pretending if you wear cloth masks anyhow.

You can already take off your mask and hang out in a packed restaurant or bar if you want to. Even in MoCo.
Go for it.

Stop being so melodramatic. I have a vaccine and a booster. A lot of people are just wondering why MoCo is so high strung about Covid measures compared to its educated, highly liberal neighbors like Arlington and DC who seem to think that they don’t need a mask mandate. Muriel Bowser and the Arlington County government aren’t Ron DeSantis. What makes MoCo residents uniquely susceptible to Covid compared to people in these other jurisdictions? It seems to me and a lot of other Democratic voting MoCo residents that we are being led by a bunch of irrational hypochondriacs.

You can go into any restaurant or bar in MoCo and eat or drink maskless.
Like I said, knock yourselves out.

You just can't go maskless into a grocery store or a pharmacy. I think most residents of DC and Arlington have enough sense to do this, and then don't care what happens in the poorer areas.

In MoCo, a large swath of the county is the poorer area, both white poverty or LMC and POC. There are a million people. A lot of them are living multiple families to a house or apartment and poorly educated and the Trumpers don't have much sense--so would refuse to mask in a logical place like pharmacy. In Bethesda, or the wealthier areas, most people would have enough sense to go to the gym without a mask and wear a mask to get groceries or pick up drugs. Not so in my area of the MoCo, as I even saw during the height of the pandemic.

This is the most classist, racist garbage I’ve seen in this thread. This is why minorities and the working class is moving far away from the Democrats, a party that supposedly represents them.

It makes no logical sense to wear a mask if you don’t have close exposure for someone for a long period of time, like running in a 7-11 to get a coffee at 5 am. It does make sense to wear a mask when you’re having dinner next to another couple that is 5 feet away from you. Yet supposedly educated like you don’t see how ridiculous it is for there to be mask regulations for the former and not the latter.

Don't be ridiculous. All you have to do to prevent maskless transmission is to have a beer in your hand. The virus apparently prefers to jump into the beer rather than the nose of a person. That makes sense, right Hans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If everyone had access to the Merck and Pfizer antiviral packs for COVID, this would be over. It's been almost a year since the vaccine was rolled out - a vaccine that was developed in 9 months. When will everyone have access to the COVID treatment medication??? It's almost been 2 years for F sake.

How about rapid test access that was promised. This administration... Inept.

[Anonymous]

So the anti-mask troll from the other thread started a new one and is perpetuating the conversation here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s becoming very clear that being vaccinated means almost nothing in terms of not getting covid.

So the vaccine keeps most people from having severe cases that require hospitalization. Ok, that’s great. But you know what? Most people who get covid don’t require hospitalization either. So there’s that.

But it clearly doesn’t do much to prevent infection.

It's weird how case rates are so much lower in highly vaccinated places, though...

See Europe...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the anti-mask troll from the other thread started a new one and is perpetuating the conversation here?

This thread is from an antimasker? Do you think it is Councilmember Hucker?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the anti-mask troll from the other thread started a new one and is perpetuating the conversation here?

This thread is from an antimasker? Do you think it is Councilmember Hucker?

Or maybe Elrich from the mirror universe?

[Anonymous]

Come to think of it, it looks like the whole council has been taken over by their evil, antimasker counterparts from the mirror universe.