85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone see the photos from the Council breakfast where there only put on masks for Instagram after a filling a huge ballroom maskless? (they were eating and we all know covid magically spares anyone stuffing their fat face).

Even the council knows that the very minor benefit of masks (maybe 10 percent) isn’t worth the hassle for the vaccinated and healthy.

You're upset because county council members didn't wear masks while eating? Or maybe you think the county council should shut down the restaurants? Or maybe you think that, if the county doesn't require everyone to wear a mask always everywhere, they shouldn't require anyone to wear a mask ever anywhere?

+1 The benefit is if people where a *proper* mask and wear it properly.

I see gators, masks under the noise, taken off to speak. And do you think the virus stops itself from spreading when you take off the mask to eat in a restaurant/bar/cafeteria? People breathe talk, laugh, cough, sneeze while eating. If it was done properly, IMO, the case rate would be lower. But people aren't masking properly. So, it's just political theater and a joke.

And even wearing a "proper" mask correctly, the benefit is very small.

It's not small.

Does anyone have study on mask wearing and Omicron spread?

[Anonymous]

If it is more contagious shouldn’t we redefine our definition of close contact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Masks are useless. A chain limo fence trying to keep bee’s out of your yard….and w omicron, the bee can’t even sting…

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Anonymous wrote:Masks are useless. A chain limo fence trying to keep bee’s out of your yard….and w omicron, the bee can’t even sting…

No they aren't and plenty of studies to prove it.

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Anonymous wrote:Masks are useless. A chain limo fence trying to keep bee’s out of your yard….and w omicron, the bee can’t even sting…

No they aren't and plenty of studies to prove it.

Like all those controlled trials? Oh wait…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Masks are useless. A chain limo fence trying to keep bee’s out of your yard….and w omicron, the bee can’t even sting…

No they aren't and plenty of studies to prove it.

Like all those controlled trials? Oh wait…

This says masks are effective at preventing transmission of covid in the community.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32512240/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

What prevents massive breakthrough cases of measles and polio is herd immunity. That’s why we still have measles outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates. That’s also why those vaccinations are required to attend school.

[Anonymous]

So measles is breaking through the vaccine every now and again but it generally works which is why we don’t have more cases of measles now than before the vaccine was widely deployed ?

Thanks for making the point lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

It’s too bad the ‘experts’ weren’t more honest from the beginning.

Honestly, if they pushed the idea that vaccines will keep you out of the hospital and keep you from dying (as is the case) I think they would have gotten a decent enough uptake.

People are rightfully skeptical of companies like Pfizer. Give people accurate information and let them make their own decisions. No mandates. No lies. And if the ‘experts’ are unsure, they should be willing to admit that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

What prevents massive breakthrough cases of measles and polio is herd immunity. That’s why we still have measles outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates. That’s also why those vaccinations are required to attend school.

Tell us more about herd immunity with regards to Covid.

When will we reach herd immunity? When was the last time Fauci talked about herd immunity?

Nobody even brings up the idea of hers immunity anymore because that is clearly not a viable option. With the amount of people who have had Covid plus the amount of people who are vaccinated, surely enough Americans have immunity by now. Herd immunity is no longer a goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."

This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.

So when does that shift occur from pandemic to endemic?

I feel frustrated as the other poster. When does Moco let this end? Why are kids still wearing masks on the playground at recess? Why do I need to wear a mask if I'm triple vaccinated? What's the point of wearing a mask in a restaurant if I'm pretty much not wearing it at all while eating?

Maybe you shouldn’t go to restaurants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

Natural infection has not offered protection against omicron. See Florida. Our federal leadership has failed. This trickles down to states abs counties abs this is why we are all so unhappy.

What prevents massive breakthrough cases of measles and polio is herd immunity. That’s why we still have measles outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates. That’s also why those vaccinations are required to attend school.

Tell us more about herd immunity with regards to Covid.

When will we reach herd immunity? When was the last time Fauci talked about herd immunity?

Nobody even brings up the idea of hers immunity anymore because that is clearly not a viable option. With the amount of people who have had Covid plus the amount of people who are vaccinated, surely enough Americans have immunity by now. Herd immunity is no longer a goal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need our masks.

These days vaccines don’t stop transmission and contraction.

They knew that from the beginning. Vaccines are good for preventing death when you get Covid. But you can still catch and transmit Covid when vaccinated.

Yes the new definition is “lessens symptoms and maybe you get over it more quickly.” Been doing that with chicken soup and vitamin C for years. They also haven’t been implicated in myocarditis, which is a plus.

In the old days vaccines were expected to be very successful at prevention. Or maybe it was something else preventing massive “breakthrough” cases of polio and measles?

Of course, we stopped hearing them being called “breakthrough” infections when they became so many that the term sounded ridiculous. Then we had to parrot the new line that vaccines just make infection easier. Like NyQuil or orange juice.

What prevents massive breakthrough cases of measles and polio is herd immunity. That’s why we still have measles outbreaks in communities with low vaccination rates. That’s also why those vaccinations are required to attend school.

Tell us more about herd immunity with regards to Covid.

When will we reach herd immunity? When was the last time Fauci talked about herd immunity?

Nobody even brings up the idea of hers immunity anymore because that is clearly not a viable option. With the amount of people who have had Covid plus the amount of people who are vaccinated, surely enough Americans have immunity by now. Herd immunity is no longer a goal.

Yeah it seems to be becoming more clear that at best we will get to the point where Covid is more like the flu. There’s no here immunity from the flu either but the vaccine does cut down on transmission and lessen symptoms if you are infected.