Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:doesn’t the al-Jazeera video inadvertently show that it was a malfunction?

Yes, but it's too late to tell that to those in the Middle East who are looking for more reasons to hate Israel.

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The Archbishop of Canterbury himself issued a statement on 10/15 that Israeli rockets had damaged al-Ahli on 10/14 and 4 staff members were also hurt. So whether or not today's missile was from Hamas or Israel, Israel HAS bombed this hospital within the last 5 days.

https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/gaza-hospitals-are-facing-catastrophe-says-archbishop-canterbury

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

You're still assuming, without conclusive proof, that Israel bombed the hospital.

Israel bombed the hospital this week. Their leaders have been calling for mass casualties and mass destruction causing the anhiliation of the Palestinian people for days. Israel also has a history of bombing medical facilities. And Hamas' rockets have never had that capacity previously. https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1714377456533278928?s=20

But somehow, we are to believe you all that it was a failed Hamas rocket despite the how many thousands of rockets Israel has dropped in just the past few days?

You guys are unbelievable in what you will push.

[Anonymous]

Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

You're still assuming, without conclusive proof, that Israel bombed the hospital.

This week alone, Israeli precision missiles have killed qjournalists, medics and evacuation routes “by accident.” It seems logical that they would “accidentally” hit a hospital too.

Say what you will about Hamas, but earlier this week they hit the exact target they were aiming for. Apparently, it’s antisemitic to say that earlier tonight the IDF did too.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

You're still assuming, without conclusive proof, that Israel bombed the hospital.

The evidence, in fact, leans strongly in the other direction. What seems undisputed is that Islamic Jihad and/or Hamas was launching from around there.

I agree. I absolutely know Israel has lied about killing civilians in the past and obviously it’s too early for regular, non weapons experts to know know the truth with certainty yet. But it’s clear to me it IS knowable via osint most likely and certainly by our government-I don’t see what the problem is with waiting until reliable sources report on the evidence.

[Anonymous]

Egypt is also facing massive migration, overpopulation, and economic problems and President Sisi is highly unpopular . The Egyptians are the ones to watch. They might even consider war to support the Palestinians because Sisi needs a political boost and to lower the immigration and population numbers in Egypt . They are involved in a few regional wars already- Egyptian soldiers are in Libya, Sudan, and Egypt was ready to declare war with Ethiopia a few years ago over the Blue Nile Renaissance dam and water flow to Egypt

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

You're still assuming, without conclusive proof, that Israel bombed the hospital.

The evidence, in fact, leans strongly in the other direction. What seems undisputed is that Islamic Jihad and/or Hamas was launching from around there.

I agree. I absolutely know Israel has lied about killing civilians in the past and obviously it’s too early for regular, non weapons experts to know know the truth with certainty yet. But it’s clear to me it IS knowable via osint most likely and certainly by our government-I don’t see what the problem is with waiting until reliable sources report on the evidence.

Oh puh fricken leeze. How do you "absolutely know" this? Were you there, boots on the ground, conducting a forensic investigation, retrieving bomb fragments? No. And no such evidence has been provided.

You do NOT "absolutely know" this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Egypt is also facing massive migration, overpopulation, and economic problems and President Sisi is highly unpopular . The Egyptians are the ones to watch. They might even consider war to support the Palestinians because Sisi needs a political boost and to lower the immigration and population numbers in Egypt . They are involved in a few regional wars already- Egyptian soldiers are in Libya, Sudan, and Egypt was ready to declare war with Ethiopia a few years ago over the Blue Nile Renaissance dam and water flow to Egypt

You'd think the Muslim world would want to get their shit together and solve problems.

But instead we have these half-assed Muslim "leaders," not considering their future, not considering sustainability, engaging in small-brain thinking and stupid and pointless religious factionalization, leading to continued destabilization.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

You're still assuming, without conclusive proof, that Israel bombed the hospital.

The evidence, in fact, leans strongly in the other direction. What seems undisputed is that Islamic Jihad and/or Hamas was launching from around there.

I agree. I absolutely know Israel has lied about killing civilians in the past and obviously it’s too early for regular, non weapons experts to know know the truth with certainty yet. But it’s clear to me it IS knowable via osint most likely and certainly by our government-I don’t see what the problem is with waiting until reliable sources report on the evidence.

Oh puh fricken leeze. How do you "absolutely know" this? Were you there, boots on the ground, conducting a forensic investigation, retrieving bomb fragments? No. And no such evidence has been provided.

You do NOT "absolutely know" this.

Reliable sources have demonstrated to my satisfaction that has happened on occasion in the past. I don’t think they are lying now for the reasons I’ve stated. And if you think Israel or ANY gov doesn’t sometimes lie you’re nuts. (And of course, it goes without saying they lie a whole lot less than hamas!)

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

My point isn’t that they aren’t terrorists. My point is they have great regional popularity . This js not the days of yore where the PLO was deeply unpopular and seen as a menace to the Arab neighboring countries/ governments particularly Lebanon and Jordan .

Hamas is a paramilitary group for hire essentially and their goal is not just to fight on behalf of Palestinians. They are fighting on behalf of Russia and Iran too , and they’ve gotten training from one or either. Points that for whatever reason people like to ignore. Hamas is not sequestered to Gaza.

They are a regional and very mobile force much like ISIS . Leveling Gaza will mean nothing if the goal is destroying Hamas . They are everywhere

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt is also facing massive migration, overpopulation, and economic problems and President Sisi is highly unpopular . The Egyptians are the ones to watch. They might even consider war to support the Palestinians because Sisi needs a political boost and to lower the immigration and population numbers in Egypt . They are involved in a few regional wars already- Egyptian soldiers are in Libya, Sudan, and Egypt was ready to declare war with Ethiopia a few years ago over the Blue Nile Renaissance dam and water flow to Egypt

You'd think the Muslim world would want to get their shit together and solve problems.

But instead we have these half-assed Muslim "leaders," not considering their future, not considering sustainability, engaging in small-brain thinking and stupid and pointless religious factionalization, leading to continued destabilization.

Stop with the dog whistles. Because Israel hasn't been in the domestic gutter for the past 3 years? They have a PM who is currently indicted for bribery and corruption and has been on trial since 2019. HE tried to dismantle the constitution and Supreme Court to enable his continued position. And the US? The US also has an indicted president, and an attempted coups by insurgents on Jan 6 - many of whom are now in jail for treason.

Sit down with your high horse morality.