Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

DP. Sorry, why is Israel attacking Gaza again?

If only Hamas hadn’t…

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Anonymous wrote:We've reached the "who bombed the hospital" phase two days early. We can proceed to "we were unprepared for the challenge of house-to-house urban warfare" followed by "whose fault is it that these children are starving"?

Indeed...both sides will claim victory and defeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt is also facing massive migration, overpopulation, and economic problems and President Sisi is highly unpopular . The Egyptians are the ones to watch. They might even consider war to support the Palestinians because Sisi needs a political boost and to lower the immigration and population numbers in Egypt . They are involved in a few regional wars already- Egyptian soldiers are in Libya, Sudan, and Egypt was ready to declare war with Ethiopia a few years ago over the Blue Nile Renaissance dam and water flow to Egypt

You'd think the Muslim world would want to get their shit together and solve problems.

But instead we have these half-assed Muslim "leaders," not considering their future, not considering sustainability, engaging in small-brain thinking and stupid and pointless religious factionalization, leading to continued destabilization.

Stop with the dog whistles. Because Israel hasn't been in the domestic gutter for the past 3 years? They have a PM who is currently indicted for bribery and corruption and has been on trial since 2019. HE tried to dismantle the constitution and Supreme Court to enable his continued position. And the US? The US also has an indicted president, and an attempted coups by insurgents on Jan 6 - many of whom are now in jail for treason.

Sit down with your high horse morality.

It's not a dog whistle, it's a statement of fact. All those in Muslim leadership right now can barely see beyond their own noses.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

You honestly believe this is what an UNrestrained Israel looks like? You are even dumber than we thought.

The pro-genocide lovers are weirdly obsesses with Israel's status as a perfectly militaristic state. Guess what? They are fundamentally flawed and their systems erred. That was on full display as their "world class" defense mechanisms were thwarted by terrorists on make shift go karts and parachutes. Israel have displayed nothing but complete ineptitude all week. And now Netanyahu is trying to make up for it domestically by taking out as many civilians as possible. "Mass destruction" was their stated goal. Why do you not believe them?

So, just to be clear, in your fantasy world, this is Israel unrestrained, giving it all they've got?

Yes completely unrestrained. Makes Putin appear docile by comparison. The only thing Israel has left is a nuclear weapon, which it can’t drop on its own backyard.

Well, the truth is going to speak for itself over the next few weeks and possibly months. I assure you that nukes is not "the only thing" Israel has left.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Isreal could have flattened Gaza by last Monday. They didn’t. That is restraint.

They would’ve if their hostages were not there .

Let’s say some American hostages were in that Gazan hospital . What will Israel do? What would America do?

It’s a complete lack of foresight on the side of the Israelis.

I don't think you realize how far the dial moved two weekends ago. When Hamas committed a Jonestown level massacre, this moved so far beyond the questions you are asking. Do you understand the difference between a hostage negotiation and war?

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

My point isn’t that they aren’t terrorists. My point is they have great regional popularity . This js not the days of yore where the PLO was deeply unpopular and seen as a menace to the Arab neighboring countries/ governments particularly Lebanon and Jordan .

Hamas is a paramilitary group for hire essentially and their goal is not just to fight on behalf of Palestinians. They are fighting on behalf of Russia and Iran too , and they’ve gotten training from one or either. Points that for whatever reason people like to ignore. Hamas is not sequestered to Gaza.

They are a regional and very mobile force much like ISIS . Leveling Gaza will mean nothing if the goal is destroying Hamas . They are everywhere

Well that's the winner's circle right there. DO you listen to yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

How do we know it was IDF? Let's be clear, Hamas very much still controls most of the messaging about what has been happening on the ground in Gaza right now. They'll tell you what THEY want you to hear. And those actions benefit them more than they benefit the IDF.

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Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

DP. Sorry, why is Israel attacking Gaza again?

If only Hamas hadn’t…

Interesting. You accept that targeting journalists is part or Israel’s offensive against Hamas? Journalists are a valid target in this war. The IDF considers journalists the enemy and they shoot to kill.

That’s what makes the IDF war criminals. (Well, one of the many things)

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

My point isn’t that they aren’t terrorists. My point is they have great regional popularity . This js not the days of yore where the PLO was deeply unpopular and seen as a menace to the Arab neighboring countries/ governments particularly Lebanon and Jordan .

Hamas is a paramilitary group for hire essentially and their goal is not just to fight on behalf of Palestinians. They are fighting on behalf of Russia and Iran too , and they’ve gotten training from one or either. Points that for whatever reason people like to ignore. Hamas is not sequestered to Gaza.

They are a regional and very mobile force much like ISIS . Leveling Gaza will mean nothing if the goal is destroying Hamas . They are everywhere

Well that's the winner's circle right there. DO you listen to yourself?

Have you been under a rock lately?

Iran has been funding and equipping Hamas for years.
Russia licensed manufacturing of Kalashnikovs and other Russian design weaponry to Hamas weapons workshops
There is evidence that Russians helped train and direct the Hamas terrorists for their attack on Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

My point isn’t that they aren’t terrorists. My point is they have great regional popularity . This js not the days of yore where the PLO was deeply unpopular and seen as a menace to the Arab neighboring countries/ governments particularly Lebanon and Jordan .

Hamas is a paramilitary group for hire essentially and their goal is not just to fight on behalf of Palestinians. They are fighting on behalf of Russia and Iran too , and they’ve gotten training from one or either. Points that for whatever reason people like to ignore. Hamas is not sequestered to Gaza.

They are a regional and very mobile force much like ISIS . Leveling Gaza will mean nothing if the goal is destroying Hamas . They are everywhere

Well that's the winner's circle right there. DO you listen to yourself?

Have you been under a rock lately?

Iran has been funding and equipping Hamas for years.
Russia licensed manufacturing of Kalashnikovs and other Russian design weaponry to Hamas weapons workshops
There is evidence that Russians helped train and direct the Hamas terrorists for their attack on Israel.

Does that mean some on the left will now be cheering for Vlad again?

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I remember when Israel said there were 40 beheaded babies but couldn't confirm said information. Israel lies as often as it drops bonds on Gaza - nothing they say can be believed.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

big surprise.

The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?

Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.

+10000

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Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

How do we know it was IDF? Let's be clear, Hamas very much still controls most of the messaging about what has been happening on the ground in Gaza right now. They'll tell you what THEY want you to hear. And those actions benefit them more than they benefit the IDF.

Dude, the IDF admits to bombing the news organizations. That was intentional according to Israel. They admit to killing the journalists “accidentally.”

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Anonymous wrote:Mental gymnastics dragging out incidents years ago. Today, Palestinian jihadi terrorists killed five hundred of their own women and children. These are the true monsters, they don’t spare their own.

If only the IDF hadn’t destroyed the headquarters of the largest international news organizations in Gaza just a couple days ago… If only Israel hadn’t killed journalists in clearly marked vehicles on the ground. Maybe we would have objective evidence on the ground.

If only, right?

How do we know it was IDF? Let's be clear, Hamas very much still controls most of the messaging about what has been happening on the ground in Gaza right now. They'll tell you what THEY want you to hear. And those actions benefit them more than they benefit the IDF.

We also know that Hamas was blockading humanitarian convoys, especially ones trying to evacuate.

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Anonymous wrote:If only Israel hadn’t bombed the headquarters of the Associated press in Gaza. If only the IDF hadn’t accidentally killed BBC journalists with their precision missiles.

Maybe there would still be credible sources on the ground to report on what was happening.

If only Israel hadn’t “accidentally” killed so many journalists before “accidentally” bombing a hospital. Doctors in hospitals and journalists in clearly marked press vans look exactly like Hamas fighters. Even 6 year old children in schools look exactly like Hamas terrorists. Those guys are masters of disguise. Sometimes they can transform into 5 pound infants in the NICU.

We must trust Israel above our own eyes. Israel only kills terrorists. If you see videos of IDF bombs killing innocent civilians your eyes are antisemitic.

Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon. They were the only ones on the ground. Clearly marked.

In the 2006 war, Israel bombed a Red Cross caravan which had been given prior clearance to evacuate civilians out of the area. Israel intentionally bombed the Red Cross trucks (with the red crosses on the top) killing both civilians and Red Cross workers.

They are monsters.

They bombed the Reuters team because they were losing in Lebanon and didn’t want the casualty count and reports to be public.

They ran with their tails between their legs from the Lebanese border. They know most of Hamas is not in Gaza but operating there along with Hezbollah not but they cannot handle any ground war because they aren’t used to it. Hamas and Hezbollah as awful as they are . They are battle ready and battle
tested and have been fighting multiple multiple ground wars in Syria, Lebanon, and the Sinai against ISIS since
2011.

Egypt is very grateful to Hamas for helping defeat ISIS in the Sinai regardless of what they say to Israel. They will stand quietly by the Palestinians and Hamas.

That doesn't make Hamas any less a group of terrorists today.

My point isn’t that they aren’t terrorists. My point is they have great regional popularity . This js not the days of yore where the PLO was deeply unpopular and seen as a menace to the Arab neighboring countries/ governments particularly Lebanon and Jordan .

Hamas is a paramilitary group for hire essentially and their goal is not just to fight on behalf of Palestinians. They are fighting on behalf of Russia and Iran too , and they’ve gotten training from one or either. Points that for whatever reason people like to ignore. Hamas is not sequestered to Gaza.

They are a regional and very mobile force much like ISIS . Leveling Gaza will mean nothing if the goal is destroying Hamas . They are everywhere

Well that's the winner's circle right there. DO you listen to yourself?

Have you been under a rock lately?

Iran has been funding and equipping Hamas for years.
Russia licensed manufacturing of Kalashnikovs and other Russian design weaponry to Hamas weapons workshops
There is evidence that Russians helped train and direct the Hamas terrorists for their attack on Israel.

I'm simply saying that I can't envision a Star Wars Bar filled with a bigger group of losers than Hamas, Russia and Iran.