Don't fly United

[Anonymous]

I know his background does not really matter in this case, but does anyone have a link to the news that David Thanh Duc Dao( passenger) and David Anh Duy Dao( person with criminal background) are the same?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Discounted or nearly-free flight tickets available to airline employees. Typically, buddy passes are restricted to the employee’s immediate family members, although some airlines also allow buddy passes to be given to friends as well. The person(s) receiving the buddy passes must typically be registered with the airline as one of the employee’s designated recipients.

https://www.theflightexpert.com/buddy-pass/

Letter from United to customers: https://hub.united.com/our-customers-leggings-are-welcome-2331263786.html

This site lists the dress code: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/united-airlines-dress-code-spandex-leggings/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that United investors are being beaten again today. I meant "re-accommodated". Sorry.

They ain't seen nothing yet. People around the world are disgusted with United.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that United investors are being beaten again today. I meant "re-accommodated". Sorry.

They ain't seen nothing yet. People around the world are disgusted with United.

I doubt it. Consumers have a short memory:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/crisis-experts-to-united-this-too-shall-pass/2017/04/11/3550be86-1ec9-11e7-a0a7-8b2a45e3dc84_story.html?utm_term=.e75b1d3d279d

[Anonymous]

He caused his injuries. All he had to do was use his perfectly fine working legs. He could have easily stood up. It looked like he did everything he could to get banged up. Now everyone feels sorry for him because he is a convicted criminal. It appears he was not raised to obey the law and he feels he can get away with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Discounted or nearly-free flight tickets available to airline employees. Typically, buddy passes are restricted to the employee’s immediate family members, although some airlines also allow buddy passes to be given to friends as well. The person(s) receiving the buddy passes must typically be registered with the airline as one of the employee’s designated recipients.

https://www.theflightexpert.com/buddy-pass/

Letter from United to customers: https://hub.united.com/our-customers-leggings-are-welcome-2331263786.html

This site lists the dress code: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/united-airlines-dress-code-spandex-leggings/

. How come the girls' father wearing shorts was allowed through?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He caused his injuries. All he had to do was use his perfectly fine working legs. He could have easily stood up. It looked like he did everything he could to get banged up. Now everyone feels sorry for him because he is a convicted criminal. It appears he was not raised to obey the law and he feels he can get away with it.

All united had to do was offer fair compensation for not providing a service that customers had paid for and someone would have volunteered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that United investors are being beaten again today. I meant "re-accommodated". Sorry.

They ain't seen nothing yet. People around the world are disgusted with United.

I doubt it. Consumers have a short memory:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/crisis-experts-to-united-this-too-shall-pass/2017/04/11/3550be86-1ec9-11e7-a0a7-8b2a45e3dc84_story.html?utm_term=.e75b1d3d279d

Every time I see that video of that elderly Asian gentlemen being dragged down that plane with the passengers screaming in horror, I know damn well that could have been my father, just trying to come home on the airline seat I bought him.

Yeah, my father has a funky foreign name, so he's an easy target to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Discounted or nearly-free flight tickets available to airline employees. Typically, buddy passes are restricted to the employee’s immediate family members, although some airlines also allow buddy passes to be given to friends as well. The person(s) receiving the buddy passes must typically be registered with the airline as one of the employee’s designated recipients.

https://www.theflightexpert.com/buddy-pass/

Letter from United to customers: https://hub.united.com/our-customers-leggings-are-welcome-2331263786.html

This site lists the dress code: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/united-airlines-dress-code-spandex-leggings/

. How come the girls' father wearing shorts was allowed through?

If you read the link, shorts are allowed as long as they are a certain length.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He caused his injuries. All he had to do was use his perfectly fine working legs. He could have easily stood up. It looked like he did everything he could to get banged up. Now everyone feels sorry for him because he is a convicted criminal. It appears he was not raised to obey the law and he feels he can get away with it.

Careful, you'll be accused on here of working for United. This man chose to disobey in a cause similar to Rosa Parks.

Tomorrow there will be a protest at the Capitol. They'll be chanting:

"What do we want?"

"Changes to Federal regulations for involuntary denied boarding process!"

"When do we want it?"

"Now!" (or after Congress gets back from recess)

[Anonymous]

Sadly my DH pointed out that United didn't rank first or even 2nd for voluntary or involuntary bumping. I started a thread on DCUM and was cancelling the CC then...

https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/resources/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/2017MarchATCR.pdf

I did find an article where a person got bout 11,000 for family travel due from delta for 1 recent trip: https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2017/04/09/why-delta-air-lines-paid-me-11000-not-to-fly-to-florida-this-weekend/&refURL=&referrer=#9be82424de16

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He caused his injuries. All he had to do was use his perfectly fine working legs. He could have easily stood up. It looked like he did everything he could to get banged up. Now everyone feels sorry for him because he is a convicted criminal. It appears he was not raised to obey the law and he feels he can get away with it.

Careful, you'll be accused on here of working for United. This man chose to disobey in a cause similar to Rosa Parks.

Tomorrow there will be a protest at the Capitol. They'll be chanting:

"What do we want?"

"Changes to Federal regulations for involuntary denied boarding process!"

"When do we want it?"

"Now!" (or after Congress gets back from recess)

How about 9am on Easter Monday? Lots of us will be off work anyways, and there'll be the excitement of the Easter Egg Roll at the White House. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Discounted or nearly-free flight tickets available to airline employees. Typically, buddy passes are restricted to the employee’s immediate family members, although some airlines also allow buddy passes to be given to friends as well. The person(s) receiving the buddy passes must typically be registered with the airline as one of the employee’s designated recipients.

https://www.theflightexpert.com/buddy-pass/

Letter from United to customers: https://hub.united.com/our-customers-leggings-are-welcome-2331263786.html

This site lists the dress code: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/united-airlines-dress-code-spandex-leggings/

. How come the girls' father wearing shorts was allowed through?

If you read the link, shorts are allowed as long as they are a certain length.

Did they get out a ruler to measure?

Anyway, I find it a bit strange they so strictly apply this rule to children. Leggings for kids arent like the spandex pants Richard Simmons wears- they extremely common attire for girls, and I have a hard time believing that other customers would feel two kids were badly representing United because they were wearing leggings. Now if they were causing a raucous or running up and down the aisles screaming, now that would be a reason to complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Discounted or nearly-free flight tickets available to airline employees. Typically, buddy passes are restricted to the employee’s immediate family members, although some airlines also allow buddy passes to be given to friends as well. The person(s) receiving the buddy passes must typically be registered with the airline as one of the employee’s designated recipients.

https://www.theflightexpert.com/buddy-pass/

Letter from United to customers: https://hub.united.com/our-customers-leggings-are-welcome-2331263786.html

This site lists the dress code: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/united-airlines-dress-code-spandex-leggings/

. How come the girls' father wearing shorts was allowed through?

If you read the link, shorts are allowed as long as they are a certain length.

Did they get out a ruler to measure?

Anyway, I find it a bit strange they so strictly apply this rule to children. Leggings for kids arent like the spandex pants Richard Simmons wears- they extremely common attire for girls, and I have a hard time believing that other customers would feel two kids were badly representing United because they were wearing leggings. Now if they were causing a raucous or running up and down the aisles screaming, now that would be a reason to complain.

Will you wear your leggings to the protest on Easter Monday?

[Anonymous]

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United Airlines knew the guy was a ethnic MINORITY by his last name. Duh.

Lots of people have "ethnic" last names due to marriage who are not that minority, and vice versa.

United messed up in this situatino in many ways, but I really doubt they are targeting Asians as part of some master plan to discriminate.

Unfortunately for United, many people in Asia don't see it that way now.

Foreign carriers make up 2/3 of the service from the Far East to the US:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/US%20International%20Air%20Passenger%20and%20Freight%20Statistics%20Report%20for%20December%202015.pdf

So United doesn't have much to lose.

Also, their stock is up today to where it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

How quickly people forget...

United invested in flights to large cities in China seeing it as a growth market. This will be a problem for them. Mark my words, their earnings will fall this year and their stock will suffer when earning results come out next quarter.

Yes, but it's not a lot. Seasonal service to Xi'an 3x a week. 3x a week service to Chengdu and Hangzhou. All their other flights are to the Beijing and Shanghai, just like other US carriers.

So United sells more seats per day on the Washington-San Francisco route than they sell in a week to Chengdu, Xi'an, and Hangzhou.

It's not only the Chinese that are absolutely disgusted.

+1,000,000