Game of Thrones

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's interesting how many of the female characters are rising to power. And they all have a score to settle.

Also, what's Arya's next move? She spent the whole last season training "to be a girl without a name". Now what?

Despite the hate amongst the kingdons, they're all going to have to band together to fight the whitealkers. Only Brie, Jon, and Sam have valerian swords. I can't imagine they're the only 3 to be able to take down the whitewalkers.

I wonder with the smirk on what's his name with the faceless men, if Arya's training was intended to make her who she was meant to be. The fact that she didn't just follow orders to kill may a somewhat neutral point. She's someone who could bring in more faces by being herself. She has a friggin' kill list!

Jaqen is Syrio Forel is no one. That's my theory.

PP here, that's been my theory as well.

Syrio was a braavo, a street fighter, who became First Sword of Bravos. Jaquen is a faceless man, an assassin serving the Many-Faced God. They are different orders or types of fighters/killers. And in the books Jaquen wasn't at the House of Black and White- it was a kindly man who ran things, who said he never heard of Jaquen.

Agree, I never got this "theory." Why would the two have anything to do with each other? Arya ran into Jaquen when she was at Harrenhal and there was never any indication that it had anything to do with Syrio other than the fact they were both from Braavos.

In the books Jaquen turns into someone who resembles a character that appears later with the maesters at the citadel. I don't remember much about it, but there's talk of dragon glass in those scenes.

But the show hasn't gone there are all, and the show writers tend to merge multiple storylines into single characters, so I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that two Braavosi men who have taken an interest in training Arya could really be the same person.

Syrio didn't "take an interest" in training Arya. He was working as a fencing instructor in Kings Landing and was hired by Ned Stark. That is a strange job for one of the Faceless Men, unless it was part of some really long con.

I think he is invested in her success and protecting her more than a simple student. He dies for her. I do think he cares about her.

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So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I completely doubt this. He despises Cersei.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I completely doubt this. He despises Cersei.

Here - http://www.geek.com/news/what-is-littlefinger-up-to-on-game-of-thrones-1658881/

"In season five, after leaving Sansa at Winterfell with the suggestion that Stannis would either take the castle or she could take down the Boltons from the inside, Baelish returned to King’s Landing to answer Cersei’s call. When he told her about the Boltons taking Winterfell and the planned wedding between Ramsay and Sansa, Cersei told him to use the Knights of the Vale to retake Winterfell and in return he would become Warden of the North under written decree of the King.

As of right now, Baelish has technically succeeded at taking Winterfell from the Boltons by using the Knights of the Vale. Sure, he’s with Sansa (which the Crown wouldn’t like) and, yes, Cersei doesn’t wield a lot of power in King’s Landing at the moment, but Littlefinger is well positioned to wrestle for control of the North no matter who ends up in power. Jaime, who was shown on the preview for episode 10, is now with the Freys at the Twins celebrating the taking of Riverrun. If Cersei can regain control of the Crown, the Riverlands and the North are both held by people who have previously pledged to her. If the Starks manage to hold Winterfell against the crown, Littlefinger has the most troops in the sparse Northern army at the moment, and the Starks would have to offer him something to keep him on their side."

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

You can google the clip of Cersei and Little Finger talking in this scene... but Cersei def tells him that he can be wardon of the north if she gets Sansa's head on a stake.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

You can google the clip of Cersei and Little Finger talking in this scene... but Cersei def tells him that he can be wardon of the north if she gets Sansa's head on a stake.

Ugh, that's not good. As last night's episode ended, that was the first thing I said to my husband...now Sansa has to deal with Cersei.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

He already married one Tully woman, only to later throw her out the moon door.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

He already married one Tully woman, only to later throw her out the moon door.

True. But it was pretty clear from the start he despised her.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

He already married one Tully woman, only to later throw her out the moon door.

True. But it was pretty clear from the start he despised her.

Isn't he the stepfather then of the boy who granted him use of the Vale troops? It was his mother, no? He who breastfed forever?

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

You can google the clip of Cersei and Little Finger talking in this scene... but Cersei def tells him that he can be wardon of the north if she gets Sansa's head on a stake.

No one knows what Littlefinger will do until he does it. He told Ned he would get the Gold Cloaks for him way back when but ended up siding with Cersei. Cersei's power (appears at least) on the wane, he may switch allegiances.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

If he wanted to kill her, he would have done it long ago. He had plenty of opportunities when she was alone with him and way more vulnerable to do it, vs now when she's under the protection of Jon snow. he probably promised her that just to gain her trust but he saw a much better way to get what he wants.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

NP. Little Finger is the one who told Cesei where Sansa was. He told Cesei about the Stark-Bolton wedding. He told Cesie that he controlled the Lord of the Vale. After Cesei railed about the Bolton's being traitors and marching on Winterfell, LF told her to let the Boltons and Stannis army fight and tear each other a part. The Vale army would finish off what was left of those armies in return, LF wanted to be named Warden of the North by Royal decree. Cesie said he could have it all as long as he bring Stansa's head on a pike.

I think this is what LF wants most. Power. He would rule the entire North with Kings Landing more than 1000 miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:So a few episodes back, possibly season 5 even, Little Finger promises Cersei he is going to kill Sansa and make sure the flag of the Lion is hanging at Winterfell. Cersei says she wont rest until Sansa's head is on a stake. Little Finger agrees to bring her down. Does anyone else recall this? Is little finger not after marrying Sansa at all but after killing her for the Lannisters so he can be Wardon of the North.

I don't remember this at all, but that may be because I assumed he was lying. I feel like Little Finger genuinely cares (cared) about Catlyn and Sansa, even if it is probably in a selfish/possessive sort of way. I think he wants Sansa to marry him because of his feelings for her mother and her and because marrying within the Tully family is a sign of his success as he measured it in childhood.

NP. Little Finger is the one who told Cesei where Sansa was. He told Cesei about the Stark-Bolton wedding. He told Cesie that he controlled the Lord of the Vale. After Cesei railed about the Bolton's being traitors and marching on Winterfell, LF told her to let the Boltons and Stannis army fight and tear each other a part. The Vale army would finish off what was left of those armies in return, LF wanted to be named Warden of the North by Royal decree. Cesie said he could have it all as long as he bring Stansa's head on a pike.

I think this is what LF wants most. Power. He would rule the entire North with Kings Landing more than 1000 miles away.

But let's be honest.. Cersei doesn't have much control over anything anymore. So bringing her Sansas head won't get him anywhere. His best approach is to marry her or manipulate her some kind of way

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Now I'm reading the per the books Dany may have been born in the Tower of Joy or that Dany & Jon are twins. Has anyone else heard this?