UVA student missing

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.


But she seems to have strong role models in her life. Jk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.


But she seems to have strong role models in her life. Jk.


you may be on to something there!
Anonymous
I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.

Please 18(21 if they are in a bar) years old women want that free drink from the old guy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so I'm a corporate lawyer so only know a little about criminal law from school. If JM's lawyer knows where he is, doesn't his lawyer have to tell police? The crime fraud exception to the attorney client privilege?


His lawyer doesn't know where he is.


I think his lawyer is allowed to break the privilege if it is about something that would be of great bodily harm to others. This guy might be dangerous but not in the sense that he would abduct and kill someone.


But that's exactly what he's Wanted for.


The lawyer must have specific reason to think the client will commit great harm to a specific person to break privilege. If the charges themselves were a basis to break privilege, there would be no privilege.
Anonymous
I think the whole thing cascaded. her judgment was impaired and she was lost an confused. This guy offers to help and to buy her a drink. A bar is a public space . . . why worry? Then she becomes more drunk and her judgment is more impaired. Guy she's spent 15 minutes with seems really, really nice and she's lost and doesn't know how to get home so when he offers a ride its very tempting.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?

No it's not. I liked older guys in my early 20s. They usually had fun hobbies, interesting occupations, and treated me with admiration that I enjoyed ( of course they just wanted a piece of ass but I was too young to realize it).


This is weird you know.

How is it weird? All I wanted to say is that some college girls are flattered by attention from older men. But whatever, let's not derail the thread.


Red flags for creepy older men.


No more creepy than the UVA LAX team.
Anonymous
^^^STOP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.


I dated grad students that I met at college parties but some random older townie on a random downtown street? No.

But I was never in a situation like Hannah was in (alone, disoriented/lost in an unfamiliar area, away from the college scene). Maybe in a situation like that I would have been relieved to meet a friendly, seemingly helpful, older stranger..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^STOP.


+10000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.


I dated grad students that I met at college parties but some random older townie on a random downtown street? No.

But I was never in a situation like Hannah was in (alone, disoriented/lost in an unfamiliar area, away from the college scene). Maybe in a situation like that I would have been relieved to meet a friendly, seemingly helpful, older stranger..
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But you wouldn't have stopped one of the several groups of people who were on the Mall that night? You wouldn't have gone in to one of the open establishments to make a phone call to a friend, a cab, the police, your parents, etc.? She didn't appear to be falling down drunk on any of the surveillance videos - something is just off here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's a little weird that she would go have a drink with this guy. When I was 18 if a 32 year old stranger asked me to have a drink in a bar I would have said no thank you. Anyone else think it's strange ?


I disagree. I dated only older men at that age.


I dated grad students that I met at college parties but some random older townie on a random downtown street? No.

But I was never in a situation like Hannah was in (alone, disoriented/lost in an unfamiliar area, away from the college scene). Maybe in a situation like that I would have been relieved to meet a friendly, seemingly helpful, older stranger..
s


But you wouldn't have stopped one of the several groups of people who were on the Mall that night? You wouldn't have gone in to one of the open establishments to make a phone call to a friend, a cab, the police, your parents, etc.? She didn't appear to be falling down drunk on any of the surveillance videos - something is just off here.


To me it looked as though she was looking for something, in an urgent way. However, I think she was more that just drunk from alcohol....... Look at the video - drunk people don't behave that way in familiar surroundings...
Anonymous
She was at frat parties earlier that Friday night -- at least one, maybe two. Maybe someone slipped something in her drink then and that is part of why she was so more-than-drunk-but-not-falling-down disoriented.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^STOP.


With what? This thread has gone off the rails in multiple directions. Let's face it, for many folks a message board dominated by "Anonymous" is more for trolling than serious, honest conversations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She was at frat parties earlier that Friday night -- at least one, maybe two. Maybe someone slipped something in her drink then and that is part of why she was so more-than-drunk-but-not-falling-down disoriented.


Definitely a possibility. Also, I don't know what the kids are drinking these days but there was one time I had a couple red bulls and vodka and the effect was somewhat terrifying- what I imagined being on speed felt like.
Anonymous
If there is a basis to believe her last text was at 1:06 around when she saw Matthew and that other dude outside the shops, and not 1:20 am as originally reported (why the change?), then I agree it makes the case against Matthew less weird and disjointed. Still not guilty til proven innocent, and I can understand why an innocent black man might run from police, and it could have been some predator she hadn't even met til after she said goodbye to Matthew.

But if the text really was earlier, for Matthew to be guilty in some way it doesn't compel some tortured explanation of events where he left her at the bar, she texted, then he came back, etc. It is more plausible without all of that.
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