Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

[Anonymous]

RAE exists.

Older kids in an age cohort are favored due to their larger size, maturity, etc.

Clubs are not incentivized to play younger players up for recruiting. Why? Because RAE exists. Those younger players playing up will be at a big disadvantage to being recruited (unless they are physically, technically, and all the other reasons the clubs have already stated as guideposts to playing up - which is what they do now). Where is the club incentive in that? Where is the parental incentive in having your kid play up with other kids that are up to 14 months older, only to be dominated by those older, bigger, faster, stronger kids?

It really blows my mind that the person pushing for Aug/Sept kids to always play up on grade really believes what they are saying. It has to be a joke, right? And don't give me the "playing down a grade hurts recruiting!" College coaches evaluate kids based on their competition within a certain age range. If you're a standout in your age range, but in a different grade, you're going to be recruited.

Also, and I'll end with this - large, established, big name clubs will do what they've already said they're going to do - stick with the age range and allow playing up to those ready. Not because of their grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

Wow finally a break through!

There was an admission that August and September birthdays because of rae would be the most likely to be playing up.

Now that we've established this another way to put it is that the grade up players playing down (Aug/Sept birthdays) are in the group most likely to be playing up. (with their grade)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

For competitive clubs, nobody gets to play up (except National teamers which would be skewed towards Jan-May) and July, June and May will on average struggle for top team slots in SY like Oct, Nov and Dec struggled under BY. So nobody is likely to play up because the top team slots are taken by the older player birthdates in the age group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

Wow finally a break through!

There was an admission that August and September birthdays because of rae would be the most likely to be playing up.

Now that we've established this another way to put it is that the grade up players playing down (Aug/Sept birthdays) are in the group most likely to be playing up. (with their grade)

But Aug/Sept players playing up wouldn't be correlated with their actual grade because skill and maturity are the criteria so on the odd chance one does get to play up they are likely to be playing with kids in the grade above them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

For competitive clubs, nobody gets to play up (except National teamers which would be skewed towards Jan-May) and July, June and May will on average struggle for top team slots in SY like Oct, Nov and Dec struggled under BY. So nobody is likely to play up because the top team slots are taken by the older player birthdates in the age group.

That makes no sense. Now because you refuse to admit the obvious you're mixing BY into SY. You also added that only National Team players would be the only ones play up which was not written or defined anywhere.

So slimy just admit the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

Wow finally a break through!

There was an admission that August and September birthdays because of rae would be the most likely to be playing up.

Now that we've established this another way to put it is that the grade up players playing down (Aug/Sept birthdays) are in the group most likely to be playing up. (with their grade)

But Aug/Sept players playing up wouldn't be correlated with their actual grade because skill and maturity are the criteria so on the odd chance one does get to play up they are likely to be playing with kids in the grade above them.

Ok heres another mind bender.

Somehow you think grade down Aug players would be playing up more often than grade up players playing with their grade. This makes no sense accoring to rae there's no reason one type of Aug birthday is any differnet than another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

For competitive clubs, nobody gets to play up (except National teamers which would be skewed towards Jan-May) and July, June and May will on average struggle for top team slots in SY like Oct, Nov and Dec struggled under BY. So nobody is likely to play up because the top team slots are taken by the older player birthdates in the age group.

That makes no sense. Now because you refuse to admit the obvious you're mixing BY into SY. You also added that only National Team players would be the only ones play up which was not written or defined anywhere.

So slimy just admit the truth.

It's over. ECNL didn't want players playing up except in very rare circumstances on a case by case basis and teams agreed. 9 to 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

Wow finally a break through!

There was an admission that August and September birthdays because of rae would be the most likely to be playing up.

Now that we've established this another way to put it is that the grade up players playing down (Aug/Sept birthdays) are in the group most likely to be playing up. (with their grade)

Whoever you're argueing with is just going to keep changing their responses to fit their narrative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so we're getting closer. It sounds like you admit that using rae logic that young grade older players would be in the group most likely to be playing up. Now just sprinkle a little club incentive to play young players with their grade for recruiting and boom. You have teams that are playing by grade.

No, this is where again you no knowing English as a first language becomes a problem with communication and could be why you are confused. Read the 9 clubs that say that playing up is rare and playing on age is their guiding light. Clubs go towards the oldest on each team. It's science.

Its funny how when you get backed into a corner you just strawman your way out. This time its knowing English other times August guy.

You believe in rae I outlined how it would affect teams. Now you're interpreting rare as never happening. When it could easily mean 3-4 "rare" players playing up per top team. Especially when recruiting for college is added to the mix and players are expected to play with their grade.

Its going to be fun watching you continue to say clubs wont roster by grade when ECNL player profiles are listed next season.

Older kids tend to get top teams, younger kids tend to get overlooked almost nobody gets to play up. So August kids have an advantage and July has a disadvantage under SY. Basic stuff.

So in SY because of rae August birthdays (followed by September birthdays) are the ones most likely to be playing up. Yes or No?

Yes

Wow finally a break through!

There was an admission that August and September birthdays because of rae would be the most likely to be playing up.

Now that we've established this another way to put it is that the grade up players playing down (Aug/Sept birthdays) are in the group most likely to be playing up. (with their grade)

But Aug/Sept players playing up wouldn't be correlated with their actual grade because skill and maturity are the criteria so on the odd chance one does get to play up they are likely to be playing with kids in the grade above them.

Ok heres another mind bender.

Somehow you think grade down Aug players would be playing up more often than grade up players playing with their grade. This makes no sense accoring to rae there's no reason one type of Aug birthday is any differnet than another.

With September 1 being a prevalent starting school date there are more August kids as the youngest in their grade than oldest.