SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The GOP has finally found a weapon to defeat the DEI monster that has been creeping into every corporate office. All these "special departments" will now be under scrutiny and every mediocre white man now has an incentive to file a discrimination lawsuit. Uno reverse and white men are back in business. #get$$$

It’s always ok to say these things about white people. You guys show so much hate and toxicity here.

Mediocrity comes in all colors - white people don't have an exclusive hold on it but you can believe that if you want. This whole thread has been about how AA gave undeserving minorites a leg up and here you are finding fault with the above statement. Only black and brown people are allowed to be subpar because it suits your narrative?

No, the thread has mostly been about Harvard systematically discriminating against Asians using stereotypes. You just happen to not give a crap about discriminating against Asians.

[Anonymous]

It’s always been outlawed.

It’s blatantly racist.

[Anonymous]

Finally, four years from now black college graduates will no longer be labelled as affirmative action candidates. Thanks SCOTUS for giving the hardworking meritorious blacks the respect they deserve, like every American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Finally, four years from now black college graduates will no longer be labelled as affirmative action candidates. Thanks SCOTUS for giving the hardworking meritorious blacks the respect they deserve, like every American.

I really hope this helps HBCUs and regional universities attract more top talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GOP has finally found a weapon to defeat the DEI monster that has been creeping into every corporate office. All these "special departments" will now be under scrutiny and every mediocre white man now has an incentive to file a discrimination lawsuit. Uno reverse and white men are back in business. #get$$$

It’s always ok to say these things about white people. You guys show so much hate and toxicity here.

Mediocrity comes in all colors - white people don't have an exclusive hold on it but you can believe that if you want. This whole thread has been about how AA gave undeserving minorites a leg up and here you are finding fault with the above statement. Only black and brown people are allowed to be subpar because it suits your narrative?

No, the thread has mostly been about Harvard systematically discriminating against Asians using stereotypes. You just happen to not give a crap about discriminating against Asians.

Well, it seems you don't understand what the case was about because the court found that WHITE and Asian students were subjected to racial discrimintion due to AA. Why are you not bemoaning the fact that some equally qualifed white students got rejected because of AA? It seems you only care about Asians. You and others in this thread seem fixated on this perceived notion that Asians are the only ones aggrieved. It's like you are taking Harvard's rejection personally. This case was never about Asian students! White and Asian students had to be rejected to make room for URMs.

[Anonymous]

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I'm one of those Democrats who is happy to see this ruling. I'd rather see affirmative action on the basis of socioeconomic status rather than race. It would probably get you to the same conclusion rather than giving preferential treatment to UMC and UC POCs.

Ditto. Two family friends’ kids are going to Michigan and UPenn in the fall, respectively. Neither is an outstanding student, both are very, VERY wealthy URMs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The GOP has finally found a weapon to defeat the DEI monster that has been creeping into every corporate office. All these "special departments" will now be under scrutiny and every mediocre white man now has an incentive to file a discrimination lawsuit. Uno reverse and white men are back in business. #get$$$

That was always there, and this decision doesn't change anything. Previously, the colleges had permission to discriminate by race, and now they don't have quite as much permission.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:getting rid of affirmative action is not going to stop white people from thinking people of color are taking their spots. As a black person, I got a 168 on my LSAT. had a 3.8 GPA, worked 4 campus jobs, worked an internship EVERY summer and I still got shady comments from white students how they would be screwed compared to me because they were not minority. As if my qualifications were less. some of the folks saying this didn't even crack 160 or have a 3.5 GPA and barely did 1 internship.

In law school I was in top 8% of my class. but folks swore I was at the bottom taking job offers from y'all. 14 years into my career I'm a partner at a big law firm. Y'all would assume it is only for diversity reasons and overlook all the cases I won, big business I brought in and top billing. It's funny how folks use to clutch their pearls in disbelief that I was in the top 3 producing associates 7 consecutive years. Like it wasn't possible for a black person to do this. no matter what the merits are, white people love to ASSUME that no one else could ever possibly achieve more than them. So even without AA folks will still find a way to complain about people of color taking their jobs or getting into top universities.

I can identify with your story. 20 years ago, I interned for a federal agency in D.C. At the end of the internship, each intern had to present their project to the senior leadership, management and other analyst in the division--about 200 people. I put a lot of thought and prep work into my presentation--as I did throughout my internship. On a Monday morning I was chatting with a colleague (new analyst) that sat in the cubicle across from me. She was a white woman and always pleasant to me. We had our normal "what did you do this weekend" conversation at 8am. I told her I spent the weekend in the office preparing for my presentation and was nervous etc. She said "you'll do fine. besides, it doesn't matter. the federal government needs minorities anyway. you've got the right skin color. so you can fail the presentation. you'll still get a job offer." What a horrible thing to say. She completely ignored my work ethic and the great job I was doing. and it was in that moment that I realized it doesn't matter how hard I work. everyone will assume my success is because of affirmative action. And it was also at that moment I had to learn to let it go because that's heavy mental crap to carry forward. So like the other poster said--I now don't care what people think. anyone who cares can read my stats and know you can't get that by just having a dark skin tone.

That was what Clarence Thomas has been saying in his decisions for years, that affirmative action itself gives a stigma to minorities.

Only a man suffering from a massive I ferioe complex would make this statement. It's mainly white people, and now Asians, who are stigmatizing minorities. Don't blame the victims of the stigma, blame the perpetrator.

The perpetrator is whoever uses affirmative action to let in less deserving blacks.

[Anonymous]

What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Are you new to the US? How else are you not familiar with gender-based AA?

[Anonymous]

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I'm one of those Democrats who is happy to see this ruling. I'd rather see affirmative action on the basis of socioeconomic status rather than race. It would probably get you to the same conclusion rather than giving preferential treatment to UMC and UC POCs.

Ditto. I grew up white and dirt poor and I'm thrilled to see this decision. AA was discriminating against whites while legacy admissions discriminated against poor people. That left poor white without a good way into college. Woke whites only recognize black people who they assume are all poor and white people who they assume are all right. So many pretend legacy "helps whites "

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Colleges are like that now BECAUSE of affirmative action for women over the past 40 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is this affirmative action for white women people are talking about?

Colleges are majority women, and a substantial majority. Some colleges put in quotas for boys.

Colleges are like that now BECAUSE of affirmative action for women over the past 40 years.

No they are like that because more people are going to college, and in high school girls are more likely to appear in the top 60% of students, though maybe less likely to be in the top 25%.
Women were about a third of PHDs 100 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:getting rid of affirmative action is not going to stop white people from thinking people of color are taking their spots. As a black person, I got a 168 on my LSAT. had a 3.8 GPA, worked 4 campus jobs, worked an internship EVERY summer and I still got shady comments from white students how they would be screwed compared to me because they were not minority. As if my qualifications were less. some of the folks saying this didn't even crack 160 or have a 3.5 GPA and barely did 1 internship.

In law school I was in top 8% of my class. but folks swore I was at the bottom taking job offers from y'all. 14 years into my career I'm a partner at a big law firm. Y'all would assume it is only for diversity reasons and overlook all the cases I won, big business I brought in and top billing. It's funny how folks use to clutch their pearls in disbelief that I was in the top 3 producing associates 7 consecutive years. Like it wasn't possible for a black person to do this. no matter what the merits are, white people love to ASSUME that no one else could ever possibly achieve more than them. So even without AA folks will still find a way to complain about people of color taking their jobs or getting into top universities.

I can identify with your story. 20 years ago, I interned for a federal agency in D.C. At the end of the internship, each intern had to present their project to the senior leadership, management and other analyst in the division--about 200 people. I put a lot of thought and prep work into my presentation--as I did throughout my internship. On a Monday morning I was chatting with a colleague (new analyst) that sat in the cubicle across from me. She was a white woman and always pleasant to me. We had our normal "what did you do this weekend" conversation at 8am. I told her I spent the weekend in the office preparing for my presentation and was nervous etc. She said "you'll do fine. besides, it doesn't matter. the federal government needs minorities anyway. you've got the right skin color. so you can fail the presentation. you'll still get a job offer." What a horrible thing to say. She completely ignored my work ethic and the great job I was doing. and it was in that moment that I realized it doesn't matter how hard I work. everyone will assume my success is because of affirmative action. And it was also at that moment I had to learn to let it go because that's heavy mental crap to carry forward. So like the other poster said--I now don't care what people think. anyone who cares can read my stats and know you can't get that by just having a dark skin tone.

That was what Clarence Thomas has been saying in his decisions for years, that affirmative action itself gives a stigma to minorities.

Only a man suffering from a massive I ferioe complex would make this statement. It's mainly white people, and now Asians, who are stigmatizing minorities. Don't blame the victims of the stigma, blame the perpetrator.

The perpetrator is whoever uses affirmative action to let in less deserving blacks.

How do you even know they are "less deserving?" You are not privy to that data or those decisions. And don't peddle your pathetic anecdotes about "well I'm so and so"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm one of those Democrats who is happy to see this ruling. I'd rather see affirmative action on the basis of socioeconomic status rather than race. It would probably get you to the same conclusion rather than giving preferential treatment to UMC and UC POCs.

Ditto. I grew up white and dirt poor and I'm thrilled to see this decision. AA was discriminating against whites while legacy admissions discriminated against poor people. That left poor white without a good way into college. Woke whites only recognize black people who they assume are all poor and white people who they assume are all right. So many pretend legacy "helps whites "

Utter bullshit. I also grew up white and dirt poor with parents who didn't get degrees, but had no problem getting into college and never felt one ounce of discrimination. And no, I was no "legacy" at the state school I went to. And the kids I met in college who were not white were every bit as good as I was, if not better. And I have a kid who is currently a junior in college who likewise never felt one ounce of anti-white discrimination.